Ukraine can’t afford to make that many payments to war widows.
For context, receiving these bodies creates a war widow obligation roughly equal to 10% of the UAF budget. Most of these corpses were soldiers sent on the disastrous Kursk PR offensive.
They want to seen as heroes so badly. It’s pathetic.
The objective, I believe, is just to make it as grizzly, bloody, and awful as possible, because they have the full backing of Western media. The history books (in the West, anyway) will blame all of it on Russian aggression, and this narrative will be driven into everyone who will listen, in every region they can get their slimy tentacles into.
It’s been their game plan all along, as we all know. From the very beginning they intentionally put artillery next to active schools, hid their soldiers in school buses and ambulances, and did everything in their power to maximize their own civilian death tolls, knowing Western media and audiences would blame Russia for every death that could have been easily avoided. These people are fighting for control of the region to remake it as they see fit, and for all their talk of nationalism and the Ukrainian people, they will gladly sacrifice the entire population if it lets them rule what’s left to be “pure”.
Sadly, history will see the Ukraine War as some sort of holocaust perpetuated by Russia instead of an inhuman meatgrinder by the US and Ukrainian governments.
Disagree. Sooner or later the western version of history will be washed away as China and the AES become the dominant force on Earth. It is inevitable.
The only way to really stop it is with a nuclear Holocaust and at that point, whoever is left probably won’t care much about history, as they will just clinging to life.That liberal imperialist audience is getting smaller and more insulated every day. Eventually it will be narrowed down to two core constituencies: Live Laugh Love real estate agents and kill-all-immigrants carwash owners.
Western history for sure, but I imagine Russia, China, and most of the world will recognize the truth. It just sucks for us stuck living in the empire.
they will gladly sacrifice the entire population if it lets them rule what’s left to be “pure”.
They outright said said so in the 30s and 40s. edit: To the downvoter - the cited part is basically a quote from Roman Shukhevych, one of the OUN leaders. Turns out your “jabba utini” heroes are nazis.
Iirc, didn’t Hitler also say something to the effect that if Germans lost to the USSR, they deserved to be killed wholesale? Fash really do expect total annihilation for one side or the other, and seem to take peace as an opportunity only to try again later. It’s disgusting.
lol. If you believe this shit…
Known Russian propaganda outlet Reuters has fooled us again.
The other RT
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Did you click on the Reuters article you’re talking about?
Russia says Ukraine postpones prisoner exchange, accepting bodies
Ukraine has unexpectedly postponed exchanging prisoners of war and accepting the bodies of killed soldiers for an indefinite period, Kremlin aide Vladimir Medinsky said on Saturday.
It’s the Kremlin aide that they’re calling the propaganda.
Reuters just quoted the Kremlin.
The exchange was agreed upon by both sides at the Istanbul negotiations. Russia showed up at the designated location, and Ukraine didn’t. The media was there to document it. Pretty cut and dry.
Edit: @Nanook@lemm.ee
That’s a conversation you might want to have with the original commenter.
If you follow up the comment chain I was trying to help clarify their comment for the thread because I think OP is criticizing what Russia said and not Reuters as a source, yet the latter is being focused on in this thread.
Known non-Russian propaganda outlet lemmy.ml has told us the truth us yet again???
I’m really getting confused about which sources we should arbitrarily dismiss.
That’s fair to be confused! Every “side” is telling you to read their sources and dismiss everyone else’s but the list changes depending on who you talk to.
I would say to start, probably don’t arbitrarily dismiss sources. I dont think thats worthwhile advice not to hear people out.
If a lot of people are trying to keep you from looking at something, I would say it’s probably important to go get the real story for yourself instead of vibing it out from a billion different opinions.
Instead, move closer to the source. In that case, like in this Reuters article, Reuters can be removed from the story.
We could go direct to the transcription of Medinsky’s full statement.
Try to read what others are saying and really try to hear them for what they’re actually meaning to say.
You rn
Remember when he oepened the arsenals to the public and all hell broke lose? Or when he got humiliated trying to order the nazis to stop shelling civilians? Super hero shit!
The Lib-Brain melts as the news his eyes, ears, and body the party told him to ignore now functions as it should. Keep ignoring your eyes and ears…citizen.
Also, of course not. How could so many of your slavi ukraini Ukrainian super-space-marines lose so many? Impossible. The Zelensky protects. Unironically feels like I’m talking to an Imperial citizen when Ukraine comes up for fucking liberals.
Amazing to see a tankie saying that shit unironically, how tf did this post even show up on my page
It is amazing indeed, as we carry the burden of being right again and again. Care to show us where we’re wrong?
Oh wait, you’ll just retreat back to where we’re blocked from commenting or interacting with. Remember that we’re the ones that get stifled. Back to brunch, libshit.
You think Reuters works for the Kremlin?
…then what?
Ukraine refused to accept 6,000 bodies of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine without explanation, Verkhovna Rada deputy Artem Dmytruk said.
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Having been initially elected an independent candidate supported by Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s Servant of the People, [Rada] joined the party shortly thereafter, before defecting to Smart Politics in 2021 and later Restoration of Ukraine in 2022. Critics have labelled Dmytruk as pro-Russian, which he has denied, pointing in particular to his organisation of a territorial defence unit following the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, which he has condemned.
Slaba poopanii!