Mark here either has poor reading comprehension, or is intentionally being a little shit by cherry picking part of the title and not reading the whole thing.
The location specified is not ‘north of Antarctica’.
It is, ‘the Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica.’
Giving ‘the Weddell Sea’ as the location is actually decently specific, and the ‘north of Antarctica’ that follows is modifying / adding to the description of ‘the Weddell Sea’… not the entirety of the location description.
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
Mark, and anyone else who also finds this to be a funny, poignant zinger, need to go back to middle school and relearn grammar.
Weddell sea is good, mentioning Antarctica is good, the word “North” is meaningless in this context which is what the OP is laughing about.
It should probably say, “off the Antarctic coast”, or even “X kilometers off the Antarctic coast”.
Or - bear with me here - it’s just a funny detail and people are laughing about it. Because any sea is obviously going to be north of it
Just looking at that map seems to show the Ross sea to the south
Sir do you know how globes work?
I think he’s probably trolling us, because he’s doubling down on it elsewhere in the thread in face of all the people explaining it to him. Nobody is that dumb.
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I see you’ve bought into the globey lie of a round earth.
Uh?
Probably the author made this exact mistake
Nothing is more South than the south pole. Everything is north of it. The map is looking directly at the “bottom” of the earth.
It is still valid to point out that “north of Antartica” is a silly phrase in context, even though it’s fine given the more specific Weddell Sea information. If you did want to help readers know the story based on a more well-known landmark, a less silly phrase would have been simply been “Weddell Sea, near Antarctica”.
I’d go with “the Antarctic’s Weddell Sea”.
While you’re not wrong, you’re also massively over-analyzing and "WELL AKSHULLY"ing what appears to be a silly one-liner, not a serious attempted dunk on the article.
I am not going to apologize for having humor standards above that of a middle schooler.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Nope. You could as well say: Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica.
I have two dollars, less than infinity.
The temperature is pleasant, higher than absolute zero.
Doesn’t add anything. There are no seas south of Antarctica.
It adds something, it specifies the nearest location, if we assume the basic sanity of the sentence. Mediterranean Sea, north of Antarctica would be insane thing to say. Mediterranean Sea, north of Africa however is a proper signifier.
Is there any Mediterranean Sea south of Africa?
If you don’t know where Mediterranean Sea is, saying it’s north of Africa is a useful thing. Regardless of how many Mediterranean Seas there are.
The map he linked literally shows the Ross sea south of Antarctica.
Also since its earth is spherical and its near the south pole you can really go any direction and find a sea… that just becomes a matter of perspective.
In this case, specifically, the wedell sea is to the north of the continent
Tthat’s not south of Antarctica though. It’s below, in terms of the map’s perspective, but “absolute south” is the middle of the picture. Anywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica.
Let me guess, you think earth is flat cause maps are flat.
Tell me you didnt read my comment without telling me
I did. Doesnt mean you made any sense. Any direction from Antarctica is north no matter what perspective.
The perspective of a map does not change how the cardinal directions relate to each other. You may be confused about how in slang, “south” may mean below and “north” may mean “above”, but that slang usage does not apply with geography where these terms are rigidly defined. The South Pole is categorically the southernmost point* — there is no location more south than the South Pole. The South Pole is located within Antarctica; ergo, there is no location more south than Antarctica.
*it’s beside the point to distinguish between the Magnetic South Pole and the True South Pole for this discussion but I figured I’d mention it
I’m not sure you understand what south means. It’s not “on the bottom of a map”, it’s “towards the south pole”. The south pole is in the middle of the linked map. On Antarctica.
The Weddell Sea, north of Antarctica, brought to you by the department of redundancy department.
show me which part of Weddell Sea isn’t North of Antarctica
It looks like some parts are south, east or west of parts of Antarctica. Sure, it’s all north of the south pole but that isn’t the question.
right, but everything in the world except for Antarctica is North of Antarctica… including all of Weddell Sea
No. There are parts of Antarctica that are north of the sea. That is, you can be in Alaska and travel south and hit the sea. It really depends on where the two points are.
the parts of weddell sea that are south of antarctica are also north of antarctica….
There is no part of the Weddell Sea, or any sea that is South of Antarctica.
here i drew you a picture
Which part is south of Antarctica?
You’re not wrong, you’re just insufferable.
Nah, spectral IS wrong. The “complaint” isn’t arguing grammar, it’s explicitly pointing out that there’s a very unhelpful couple of words in the sentence.
The sentence “I live north of Antarctica.” gives you basically zero information but is perfectly grammatically correct.
The line may as well have been “The weddel sea, which is made of water,…”
I would snarkily, rhetorically, ask if people are even taught how to diagram out a sentence structure anymore, but I already know the answer is ‘not really, no’, because the average adult American literacy level is that of a 6th grader.
I agree with your overall statement. Just wanted to point out that there are a lot more people than Americans out there.
Could you enlighten me, then? How on earth does “north of Antarctica” modifiy or add to “the Weddell Sea” in any way, shape, or form?
The Endurance has been found, 3000 metres beneath the Weddell Sea, [which is]north of Antarctica.
I’m wondering if you fail to realize that the entirety of the antarctic coast is “north of Antarctica” which makes the description a virtually useless modifier.
Nothing wrong with the grammar, just the logic.
It seems they forgot to mention it was on earth. They really should have indicated it was within the solar system too. No mention of being located in the Milky Way galaxy or the known universe either.
You better believe I’m here for this squabbling
Yup, by naming Wedell, they located it quite well; there are 13 small named seas completely encircling Antarctica. By naming any of them, you can reasonably locate (to any point that matters to dear reader) the wreck
Sure, if you happen to already know where the Wedell Sea is or if you look it up it you can reasonably locate it, in which case adding the “north of Antarctica” part is superfluous. But if you don’t already know where the Wedell Sea is, adding in the “north of Antarctica” part doesn’t actually narrow it down any, which is why it’s a funny thing to point out.
If they had wrote “just north of Antarctica” or “off the coast of Antarctica” or “near Antarctica”, that would have narrowed it down significantly.
Now that I have thoroughly explained the joke, I imagine it’s much funnier now.
I’m sure that “Mark “Three-Jabs” Newton” and the rest of us who found this funny were able to deduce from the context that is actually what the writer meant . That isn’t what they actually wrote though so “sp3ctr4l” is not only incorrect in asserting that Mark has “poor reading comprehension”, he is also wrong that ‘reading the whole thing’ would have clarified things and was extremely condescending about his incorrect statement at the same time, which makes him kind of an ass imo.
He was correct that Mark was “intentionally being a little shit” so 1 out of 3 wouldn’t have been so bad if he weren’t such a douche about it at the same time.
It’s much funnier now
Nah, It was rather self-explanatory, I believe most of us read it is more of a pedantic thing than a joke. Sadly, explaining the pedantic thing at length reinforced that substantially. :)
Yeah that popped out to me immediately. I looked up the Weddell Sea and as your shared map shows, it’s a big but well identified area. It’s not like they said it’s in the Pacific Ocean or some shit.
Prime “AKSHUALLY” moment.
A 6th grader’s literacy level means they can write a book report.
I used to ask my dad where we were on car trips.
“Directly above the center of the earth.” Thanks asshole.
That’s a good one *takes notes
The earth is a bit lumpy, so chances are that was a lie and he was actually lost and couldn’t figure out how to get everybody else out of the car so he could go on a trip to get milk.
*Directly above the gravitational center of mass of the Earth
Sheeeeesh, happy?
I should’ve put “ackshually” and /s
I guess I should have too, I was playing along with you :P
Narrowed it down to a single planet.
narrowed it down to 95% of a single planet!
If you exclude the landmass you narrowed it down to ~70% of a single planet.
What a shame. A wreck on another planet would have been way more interesting
I assume they mean “just north of Antarctica”. But really it could be any body of water on the planet it could fit in.
“Just north of Antarctica” is still not helpful at all though. Even a hemisphere would narrow it down more.
Just north of Antarctica in the southern hemisphere.
Listen here you little shit.
lol what else did they mean by hemisphere? is there an eastern and a western hemisphere?
Yes! Divided by the prime meridian and the antimeridian. That’s a good question, though.
That feels wrong though. First of all the prime meridian is completely arbitrary (as opposed to the equator), and in some parts of the world like Japan and New Zealand the “western” hemisphere would actually be closest towards the east.
It is arbitrary! England declared themselves the center of the world, and everyone else went with it.
The peninsula is considered the north side. So the location of the shipwreck is south of South America.
the peninsula is considered the north side
look at the peninsula
it’s on the west side
You’re looking at it from the South Pole, so there is no West, only North.
Well sure, and I get that, but the map we’re looking at clearly has a W-E line marked, presumably on the prime meridian. It’s pretty westerly in that regard which seems like a pretty sensible perspective to me on how to navigate at the south pole.
If you handed me this map and told me to go North I would go to Dronning Maud Land.
Hey it’s just south of Orkney. Small world.
It literally says beneath the Weddell sea.
But where is the Weddell sea?
Just north of Antarctica
It’s wrapped around by that peninsula that juts toward(ish) the Andes.
Yeah… probably “between Antarctica and the South Atlantic” would be the best reference here.
[Now it’s probably not the time for me to ramble on how the Atlantic should be considered two oceans instead of one, right?]
It is helpful in that it gives an idea of what sort of waters it sank at. Being close to Antarctica my mind immediately goes to heavy seas with cold weather.
The location is being kept secret to prevent looting.
Yeah, the Weddell Sea is basically in Antarctica
Ah. South of the Arctic.
Yeah even “near Antarctica” narrows it down to the South Atlantic, South Pacific and South Indian oceans.
if we suppose “just” means near in this context, “Just north of antarctica” and “Near antarctica” has exactly the same meaning.
It still narrows it down to about 1/8th of the Earth’s surface area.
Top left corner is the Weddell Sea so we know it’s somewhere in that direction
everybody know “top-left” means north-west ! just say that !
Fun fact: I have never actually seen a clip of this with audio, so I always give this guy the Skeletor voice in my head and I just realized he probably doesn’t sound like that.
I looked it up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XdWlWUUYejc
I might have seen it once a long time ago, but I don’t remember what he sounded like, so I can’t confirm that for you.
Here I’ll help, it’s also south of the North Pole.
And west of the equator.
If “north of Antarctica” isn’t enough to narrow it down, here are a few tips: it’s also south of the Arctic, further from the Sun than Venus, closer to the Sun than Mars. Now it’s easy to find it!
We don’t talk about what’s South of Antarctica
You mean beyond the ice wall that marks the edge of the disc? We’re not allowed to know /s
It’s like a basic reading comprehension thing…
The ship is located in the Weddell Sea, which is north of Antarctica.
they’re saying everywhere outside Antarctica is north of Antarctica, so that doesn’t add anything. it’s deliberately obtuse for humorous effect. basic joke comprehension should be a thing.
Or south from the Equator line.
I can construct a weird true statement from this: All continents besides Antarctica are located North of the South-Pole.
Technically, almost all of Antarctica is located north of the south pole
If the south pole is a point, then it has no surface area, so the entirety of antartica is located north of the south pole
I can specify: south of the arctic.
I’m good with it. Keep it somewhat hidden. Once the position gets out, every asshat with a scuba tank and calls themselves “an explorer” will ruin the place.
asshat with a scuba tank
3000 meters beneath the Weddell Sea
Good luck
Someone will try it don’t worry.
That or some billionaire will send private subs down to it.
From what I’ve read, billionaires need more private sub trips
Was Ernest okay?
Eventually, yes! To find out how, read his book. It’s honestly one of the best books I’ve ever read.
Also the miniseries with Kenneth Branagh is pretty good. Then for counterpoint watch The Last Place on Earth
A bit damp, but no complaints. Considering a new career distributing swords.
Just in the South of the Arctic
