If you’re offended by this meme, you’re a liberal.

  • TigrisMorte
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    422 years ago

    'cause not Voting directly supports the Fascists, your objection is assumed propaganda.

    Every Election, no excuses.

    • @quindraco@lemm.ee
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      102 years ago

      No, he wasn’t.

      Brief recap:

      1. Feb 25, 1932: Hitler is appointed to a position that grants him German citizenship.
      2. Hitler runs for President of Germany in the 1932 elections. He loses.
      3. The President Hitler lost to appoints Hitler as chancellor.
      4. President dies; Hitler merges his chancellorship with the office of President, becoming Führer.
      • @Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        I can see the hairs you’re trying to split, but Hitler was appointed Chancellor because his political party gained power through elections, it was not some random appointment.

        It was Hitler leading the Nazi party in elections that led to his chancellorship: winning a few seats in 1928, then winning 107 seats in 1930, then winning 230 seats in 1932, leading to his appointment as Chancellor in 33.

        Elections continued after that, furthering support for the Nazi party, 288 seats in 1933 allowed the Nazis to form a coalition government, then in November the Nazis received over 90% of the vote and all seats and again in 1934, when he declared himself the leader rather than just the chancellor, that referendum passed with 88%.

        Voting is important, Hitler and the Nazi Party came to power through valid elections and then consolidated power with less valid elections.

      • rumschlumpel
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        72 years ago

        And Hitler wouldn’t have been appointed if he or his party didn’t get many votes. IIRC it was the strongest party in the parliament.

        • chaogomu
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          42 years ago

          It was the loudest, but without the aid of the conservatives, they wouldn’t have had enough votes to form a government.

      • HubertManne
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        32 years ago

        A number of candidates stood in the first round. Hindenburg was not included among them as he would not be nominated as a candidate until the second round. Instead, the most popular candidate of the political right was Karl Jarres of the German People’s Party (DVP), a former Minister of the Interior, Vice-Chancellor of Germany and mayor of Duisburg. Otto Braun, the SPD’s candidate, was a former Minister-President of Prussia and a well known and respected figure. The Centre Party’s candidate, Wilhelm Marx, was the chair of the party and a former chancellor.

        The other significant candidates were Ernst Thälmann of the Communist Party (KPD) and Willy Hellpach of the German Democratic Party (DDP). The German Völkisch Freedom Party (DVFP) put forward Erich Ludendorff but secured only a negligible share of the vote.

        My point with the above is if someone besides hindenburg had won then hitler may not have been appointed. Also it was the first general election of the nation so not exactly a rock solid democracy at that point.

    • @TinyPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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      12 years ago

      This post isnt about hitler being voted into power at all, its about getting rid of fascists via electoralism. Can yall not read between the lines?

      • @Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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        12 years ago

        Then it’s a very incomplete post. Hitler, a fascist, could have been removed from power by multiple elections.

        Instead, people voted for his party more and more.

        Why choose an election-dependent dictator that set up and held special elections to meme that dictators don’t care about elections?

  • @Whoresradish@lemmy.world
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    72 years ago

    Liberal = anti-authoritarian

    Voting is a means to change government policy without killing each other. Any arguement againest liberalism is an arguement for the use of warfare to change politics and all of the bloodshed that will be included. The vast majority of humans benefit from free and fair elections. Communism is authoritarian so not liberal. Any political party that wants to use democracy and voting to avoid bloodshed and have political change are liberal.

    OP has a history of anti democratic rhetoric and repeatedly encourages violent changes in government. As long as the elections are free and fair we have no reason to use a violent revolution and cause the unnecessary massacre of innocents.

    • @TinyPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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      22 years ago

      Liberals are not anti authoritarian lmao as an ideology liberalism upholds the capitalist state via state violence like the police and military, enforces borders violently, and lets people die violently instead of providing basic human necessities like housing and food and water. Liberalism ≠ democracy, liberalism = democracy for the bourgeoisie.

      Elections cant be “free and fair” when the media and government are controlled by an economic class that needs to enforce homelessness and starvation as a threat to make their fake economy function.

        • @TinyPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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          12 years ago

          They are the same thing in every modern context, name a single liberal party around the world that doesnt support everything in my post

          • @Whoresradish@lemmy.world
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            12 years ago

            Name a single powerful country regardless of politics that doesn’t support everything in your post. Then try to split every powerful government by liberalism and authoritarianism to see who is worse.

  • some pirate
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    42 years ago

    IDC voting for a Nazi makes you a Nazi, voting against doesn’t make you a liberal or socialist or communist or even antifascist

    Clearly this meme doesn’t apply to Argentina

    • @A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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      12 years ago

      voting against doesn’t make you a liberal

      OP said voting isn’t going to stop fascism, not that you’re a liberal/whatever if you vote against it

  • @YeetPics@mander.xyz
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    22 years ago

    No you’re right, we should take the pelletguns we’re allowed to own and attack the largest most heavily armed force on earth! There’s no chance you haven’t thought this through and just want to make people feel bad about a system they didn’t create.

    • @TinyPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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      12 years ago

      In the phillipines and india there are communist parties with tens of thousands of members fighting their government with real weapons, almost all of which were stolen from their oppressors, winning large swaths of territory for the people of their respective nations. Both countries which have far right american backed governments with the US providing drones and training. Fighting the forces of facsism via protracted peoples war is very possible, and you should feel bad for not organizing.

      • @YeetPics@mander.xyz
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        12 years ago

        Do you think the Phillipines or India could best the American war machine? They have tanks and I have a .22. But do go on and tell me I should feel bad. Dumbshits like you are why oppression happens to begin with. You can’t even point to a valid enemy, you’re here shaming people for choices they didn’t get a chance to make.

  • @kool_newt@lemm.ee
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    22 years ago

    So instead we should make fun of anyone that might join our side and don’t do anything that might help anyone because the only real help comes after we somehow win violent revolution against the most powerful forces to ever exist?