At least 13 people have been killed in a blast outside Gaza City’s biggest hospital, the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says.

BBC Verify has verified graphic videos showing badly injured and possibly dead people lying outside the hospital.

The Israeli military has confirmed it struck an ambulance that it says was being used by Hamas operatives.

It did not say where the air strike took place.

“An IDF aircraft struck an ambulance that was identified by forces as being used by a Hamas terrorist cell in close proximity to their position in the battle zone,” it said in a statement.

  • @dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
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    142 years ago

    Always say that Hamas was doing X.

    Stop killing innocent people. Unless there intention is to radicalise more people.

    If you killed my family I’d probably join Hamas.

    The other thing is they justify it saying they drove us to this, but what drives Hamas to commit evil acts? Is it the oppression!

    • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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      32 years ago

      Is it the oppression!

      Objectively not. Most of the decision makers for Hamas live comfortably in Quatar.

      It’s probably the multi-decades long commitment to genocide.

      • TinyPizza
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        You think Israel has been planning this genocide for that long? Interesting take that I’d yet to hear.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness
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          I mean that’s not what they’re talking about (they’re just being a bigot), but this is just an escalation of the genocide that started in 1967.

          • TinyPizza
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            32 years ago

            I’m not sure that’s what he meant. @mwguy could you clarify about Israels multi-decade long commitment to genocide? You’re not a bigot either, right MW?

            • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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              Tiny Pizza, Has has had a multi-decades long commitment to genocide. My whole life Hamas has been calling for the murder of every Jew on the planet consistently.

                • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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                  02 years ago

                  As many as they’ve been able too. They went from stonings to gunfights to suicide bombers to rocket artillery to paraglider slave raids in my lifetime.

                  My whole life I’ve seen them dedicate more and more firepower to explicitly killing civilians

        • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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          22 years ago

          Hum… like just see what the far-right Zionist militias in the 20-30s had to say, or what the first prime minister of Israel had to say. Or what they fucking did in 1948? A literal genocide, the Nakba. Like genocide has ALWAYS been their goal.

          • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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            12 years ago

            Saying they want Israel to stop existing is VERY different from calling for a genocide. And calling for “landback” is very far from genocide…

            • @assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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              12 years ago

              It’s an interesting question, because normally forcibly evicting an entire nationality would be genocide. But is it genocide if it’s evicting the colonizers? What if it’s been 50 years? A hundred?

              I’m not sure one way or another, it’s just interesting to think about.

              • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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                That is indeed tricky.

                But I don’t think WE can find the solution. Only the people who suffered the injustice of colonialism can say what is “enough justice”. Only they know what would help mend the wounds.

                (Of course there are some extremist violent minorities in the resistance, but most Palestinians would agree they just want a land and freedom).

            • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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              02 years ago

              Their leadership when given the opportunity has consistently clarified that they indeed want genocide.

              • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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                12 years ago

                Can you clarify what they said then?

                I can say confidently that I’ve seen plenty of Israeli leaders saying they clearly want to either kill or expel all Arabs and non-Jews from Israel.

                I’ve never seen the same from Hamas leadership (and even less from other Palestinian groups - like Fatah and PFLP) that what they want is to either kill or expel all Jews from Palestine…

                • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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                  02 years ago

                  I’ve never seen the same from Hamas leadership (and even less from other Palestinian groups - like Fatah and PFLP) that what they want is to either kill or expel all Jews from Palestine…

                  Have you looked?

                  This is from just three days ago :

                  Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s political bureau, praised the brutal attack the group carried out in Israel on October 7 and said if given the opportunity, they would carry out similar assaults repeatedly in the future with the goal of eliminating Israel, The Times of Israel reported.

                  And they’ve said similar shit my entire life.

            • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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              02 years ago

              Oh they (Hamas leadership) explicitly have called for genocide separately too. In another place in this thread I linked an article where their spokesman said their goal was to continue to do more Oct 7 attacks until all the Jews were killed.

              • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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                02 years ago

                They never said “until all Jews” are killed.

                Palestinians and Hamas can make the distinction between Jewish people and Israel.

                Something Israel is incapable of doing. On purpose of course.

                • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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                  02 years ago

                  I’m going to ask what I’ve asked others who have made this “point” have you googled it.

                  Like this is a pretty basic, fundamental goal of Hamas. It’s not even denied by them when asked.

        • @mwguy@infosec.pubOP
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          02 years ago

          Hamas top leadership is in Quatar. They’re insulated from the society they’ve created.