• @thejml@lemm.ee
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    2102 months ago

    Probably a good thing, the US sucked at it anyway. Ukraine was going to be forced to concede so much… Art of the Deal strikes again.

    • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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      822 months ago

      Nah, Trump got what he wanted, the minerals deal. Now he can keep sanctions on China for longer while we strip mine Ukraine for rare earth minerals.

      • @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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        842 months ago

        Lol, we aren’t going to be mining anything. Rare earth minerals aren’t rare because they’re only located in isolated places, they’re rare because they are only present in small amounts when mining other materials.

        The hard part is the refining of rare earth minerals because it requires large investments in refineries to separate the materials and consolidate them. Infrastructure that Ukraine or America haven’t invested in.

        The minerals deal is just something that trump can point to as a “win” when in reality it’s not worth anything. Just like everything this administration does, it’s nothing but smoke and mirrors.

        • Dzso
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          242 months ago

          In that case, looks like Zelenskyy had the cards.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          162 months ago

          Ukraine doesn’t even have significant rare earth deposits. Nothing worth mining.

          However, those aren’t the only thing in the deal. Bunch of other minerals are in there, and oil and natural gas.

        • @disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          I’m aware, but they’re also unfortunately rare in the US, and we need batteries if we don’t maintain a good trade relationship with China.

          • @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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            52 months ago

            America actually has plenty of rare earth deposits, it’s just not profitable to mine them and then build facilities to refine them.

      • @torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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        272 months ago

        Bro the US isn’t going to mine shit in an active war zone. The mineral deal might be beneficial if peace is reached but not before that.

        • @frezik@midwest.social
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          42 months ago

          Doesn’t really matter. Trump got a deal. In Donnie’s diseased mind, it doesn’t matter what it says, only that it exists.

        • Cethin
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          42 months ago

          If peace is reached and maintained. If Russia doesn’t get all of Ukraine, how long is it going to be until they invade again? No one is going to want to invest in building a mine with that hanging over it.

      • @thejml@lemm.ee
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        152 months ago

        It’s going to take years if not decades to setup the full supply chain off that deal, he’ll likely be dead by then and China will be laughing the whole time.