• Flax
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      310 months ago

      Should be worldwide. Common sense.

        • Flax
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          210 months ago

          Foetus are pretty conscious. They kick about in the womb among other things. Saw an ultrasound of an abortion and the poor thing was trying to resist ☹️

            • Flax
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              110 months ago

              Yes? Animals are conscious and aware of their surroundings

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                You remember being in the womb then? Or being a sperm? Those move, you know.

                Bacteria move, but I don’t think you can argue they have minds capable of suffering. Your body would be doing a lot of murder every second of every day in that case. What about insects? Do you consider ants and mosquitos conscious? Should they be protected by animal rights laws?

                For a lot of the duration of a pregnancy, a fetus is not composed of enough cells to be much different.

                The body autonomy, let alone the health of a woman should not be compromised to “protect” a life that isn’t a life yet.

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                  210 months ago

                  I don’t remember being 1 or 2 years old. You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something? 🤣

                  The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t. I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.

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                    You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something?

                    One could make that point, but no.

                    Infanticide being a crime does not compromise the body autonomy or health of another conscious human. Criminalizing abortion, does.

                    The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t.

                    This is a false distinction. Why is human life more important than other life? What elevates a small collection of human cells above an equivalent number of insect cells?

                    I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.

                    I could say the same. This sentence serves no purpose, and will convince absolutely no-one that your sense of ethics is more developed than mine.

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          Therefore anybody younger than about a year old is fair game.

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            Hardly. Infanticide being illegal doesn’t compromise the body autonomy of anyone, but abortion being illegal, does.