Foetus are pretty conscious. They kick about in the womb among other things. Saw an ultrasound of an abortion and the poor thing was trying to resist ☹️
You remember being in the womb then? Or being a sperm? Those move, you know.
Bacteria move, but I don’t think you can argue they have minds capable of suffering. Your body would be doing a lot of murder every second of every day in that case. What about insects? Do you consider ants and mosquitos conscious? Should they be protected by animal rights laws?
For a lot of the duration of a pregnancy, a fetus is not composed of enough cells to be much different.
The body autonomy, let alone the health of a woman should not be compromised to “protect” a life that isn’t a life yet.
I don’t remember being 1 or 2 years old. You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something? 🤣
The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t. I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.
You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something?
One could make that point, but no.
Infanticide being a crime does not compromise the body autonomy or health of another conscious human. Criminalizing abortion, does.
The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t.
This is a false distinction. Why is human life more important than other life? What elevates a small collection of human cells above an equivalent number of insect cells?
I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.
I could say the same. This sentence serves no purpose, and will convince absolutely no-one that your sense of ethics is more developed than mine.
Abortion isn’t “bodily autonomy” Your body doesn’t automatically have a miscarriage on a whim. It’s inserting an instrument into a woman’s body and destroying another person who’s in there. Human life is more valuable than human life. We literally eat animals. Again, the fact I have to explain to someone that killing another person because you don’t want to face up to the consequences of your actions, and no, killing a person isn’t the same as killing an animal, shows how far we’ve regressed.
Body autonomy requires consciousness.
Foetus are pretty conscious. They kick about in the womb among other things. Saw an ultrasound of an abortion and the poor thing was trying to resist ☹️
By your logic, any moving animal is conscious and aware?
Yes? Animals are conscious and aware of their surroundings
You remember being in the womb then? Or being a sperm? Those move, you know.
Bacteria move, but I don’t think you can argue they have minds capable of suffering. Your body would be doing a lot of murder every second of every day in that case. What about insects? Do you consider ants and mosquitos conscious? Should they be protected by animal rights laws?
For a lot of the duration of a pregnancy, a fetus is not composed of enough cells to be much different.
The body autonomy, let alone the health of a woman should not be compromised to “protect” a life that isn’t a life yet.
I don’t remember being 1 or 2 years old. You saying it’s okay to murder me as long as I don’t remember it when I’m older or something? 🤣
The difference between a foetus and bacteria or ants, is that a foetus is human. Bacteria and ants aren’t. I cannot believe we’ve stooped to this level of immorality.
One could make that point, but no.
Infanticide being a crime does not compromise the body autonomy or health of another conscious human. Criminalizing abortion, does.
This is a false distinction. Why is human life more important than other life? What elevates a small collection of human cells above an equivalent number of insect cells?
I could say the same. This sentence serves no purpose, and will convince absolutely no-one that your sense of ethics is more developed than mine.
Abortion isn’t “bodily autonomy” Your body doesn’t automatically have a miscarriage on a whim. It’s inserting an instrument into a woman’s body and destroying another person who’s in there. Human life is more valuable than human life. We literally eat animals. Again, the fact I have to explain to someone that killing another person because you don’t want to face up to the consequences of your actions, and no, killing a person isn’t the same as killing an animal, shows how far we’ve regressed.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
A collection of sells that may or may not even have formed neurons yet, is not a person
And there it is. You want women to be punished for the crime of having sex. Or being raped. Or having a condom break. Whatever.
You’re a misogynist asshole with no argument.
I think you meant to claim that undeveloped fetuses have more rights than women.
Also, look up what body autonomy means. It doesn’t mean what you seem to think it means.
I call bullshit.
Therefore anybody younger than about a year old is fair game.
Hardly. Infanticide being illegal doesn’t compromise the body autonomy of anyone, but abortion being illegal, does.