If you check my comment, I will show you my current Dying condition that I have been able to test on the field.

It’s 80 % the one from XP to level 3, with a few things changed and actually used in a DND game :)

Enjoy

  • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]English
    2•2 years ago

    Lets go through the actual steps:

    • Roll a death save
    • choose an action
    • calculate new exhaustion level (which is completely different to the exhaustion mechanic that’s already in the system)
    • roll relevent attacks etc at new penalty

    So not super complicated, but definitely much more complex that… basically any other way of dying. When added to all your other homebrew rules it doesn’t matter if nobody cares until they reach 0hp, because the flip side is that they have to learn another new rule once they reach 0hp.

    Meanwhile though, dying has moved from a serious problem to a non-condition: there are some mild penalties for acting, but overall? You still have all your actions, just at a slightly slower, still costless, move speed. Players lose little for entering it, so are going to be much less inclined to avoid it, while monsters are now encouraged to double tap - it would be very stupid to walk away from a PC just because they’ve been knocked prone, even if their actions has an additional cost now.

    You’re adding elaborate “adaptations” to your reliant robin to stop it tipping over instead of just cutting your losses and buying a car with 4 wheels. Spending lots of your time on something doesn’t make it better than what’s already out there.

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
        2•2 years ago

        Go and reread your comments. Look at what you’ve actually been saying. Here you’re reminding me it’s actually more complex than I described, after claiming it’s incredibly simple. In your past comments you flipped from “it’s easier to modify a game than learn a new one” to “actually I like putting more work in than if I just got a game that works”.

        You’re not actually arguing that there are any benefits to the rule, you’re just flipping through positions trying to justify using it. Its perfectly fine to say that a system doesn’t actually do what you want and to find a system that does - there are plenty of OSR games that are very similar to 5e while adding those extra edges you’re looking for - but right now you’re adding a bunch of extra complexity that is suitable for high crunch systems, not simple ones like 5e.