It depends on the instance and mods I think. I got a temp ban from an instance just citing “bad faith” for asking if there was a source article and getting flamed for “standing in the way of the movement”. I accept that the Libre/FOSS space trends towards more niche user bases, and Lemmy is infinitely better than any other alternatives, but sometimes it feels a bit to close to Emo Phillips “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912”.
Very true, and everyone should keep that in mind. It’s also true that there is an outsized visibility and impact that instances like ML and hexbear have on the zeitgeist/perception of the platform. It doesn’t help that the creators are ML.
The Internet is not obsessed with speed running just because there exists websites on it obsessed with speed running.
The Internet also sends greeting cards and is used for business/stock market trading, but everyone knows that the Internet is FOR porn.
If you’re generally leftist, you should mostly be fine.
Otherwise you get banned for trolling (because ofc they’re right so you’re trolling) or transphobia, because if you don’t agree with everything a trans person says, you’re transphobic. Also, the world belongs to them.
Talk about lesser known subjects by the public or make a mistake yourself? Thats it, you’re banned for misinformation and trolling. Or being a nazi or racist or whatever. The words don’t have a meaning anymore
Also the random ban reasons like “Rule 3” which refers to the most open and subjective rules like “Be civil” or “Dont be a dick” or similar
Yeah, and you made a pretty blanket statement about all trans people, or ig all trans people on Lemmy, based on your experience with like, a handful of people?
If you want an example, I said trans athletes being in man or women categories is a debate and shouldn’t be allowed by default because of inequalities between the individuals, and true equality can never be reached.
I believe the use of “biological men” trigged them when I said that transgender women were that… when I was talking about scientific stuff to make my point.
Why would I care about what you said to invite derision? The problem, currently, is your attempted usage of derision to discredit an entire group of marginalized people based on your EXTREMELY LIMITED and STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT experiences.
Boohoo the trans people in the trans community disagreed with me about trans issues and the trans people called me transphobic because I have controversial opinions that I chose to share.
Get over it. Honestly, get over yourself. Grow up.
I’m not discrediting a group or marginalized people haha, I’m discrediting a stupid misinformation and censorship reason
EXTREMELY LIMITED and STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT experiences.
Surely you’re all professional athletes here. And wtf are you talking about? I’m talking about the studies and researches I’ve done, not things I’ve experienced. You’re just lying.
Then you proceed to do some mocking because your post was pretty much empty of any thing so might as well continue
Get over it. Honestly, get over yourself. Grow up.
I feel you’re the one getting triggered here. This makes it funnier when you see this totally applies to you
“I’m not discrediting a group of marginalized people”: yes you are! You came on here and made sweeping statements about the trans communities on lemmy based on your limited interactions. That’s what I’m referring to!
“Surely you’re all professional blahblah”: stopped listening because!! That’s!! Not!! What!! I!! Am!! Arguing!! Man! Reading comprehension, buddy. Your PERSONAL, ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES WITH INDIVIDUAL TRANS PEOPLE IS EXTREMELY LIMITED AND STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT, AND THEREFORE YOU CANNOT MAKE A SWEEPING JUDGEMENT STATEMENT ABOUT THE ENTIRE GROUP. There ya go, did the big letters help you figure it out?
Anyway, you seem really interested in continuing this argument (the trans athlete argument I never commented on a single time)! Almost like you have an agenda.
man or women categories is a debate and shouldn’t be allowed by default because of inequalities between the individuals, and true equality can never be reached.
Studies have found the only Olympic events in which trans women might have an advantage over cis women is mid range sprints. There has been no advantage shown in the short or long sprint events nor any other categories.
If you want to talk about equality in sports the biggest inequality that affects outcomes is money. Athletes with more money poured into them for training and equipment have a significant advantage over other athletes.
Studies did not find that there’s a lack of advantage as well, therefore why use it as a point? What I meant is that there’s place for a debate on this question.
There has been no advantage shown in the short or long sprint events nor any other categories.
I’ll have to disagree with you on this. Based on my research I did not find conclusive evidence on this. A sample size inferior to thousands is not sufficient to test anyways.
Athletes with more money poured into them for training and equipment have a significant advantage over other athletes.
That’s a well known problem. Sadly, not much we can do to fix it without creating other problems. We’re all unequal on this :(
I’ll have to disagree with you on this. Based on my research I did not find conclusive evidence on this.
Well based on my research if we stop arguing about trans people in sports and just let people play (because sports don’t actually matter) everyone on earth will become billionaires!
It’s easy to say things, I really do not care what some rando on the Internet came up with by “doing their own research” unless they have receipts. That’s how we got anti-vaxxers and flat earthers.
That’s a well known problem. Sadly, not much we can do to fix it without creating other problems
So we know this is a problem but fixing it isn’t important. Trans people in sports we don’t know is a problem, trying to “fix” it is creating other problems, so why is that more important to focus on?
I financially frauded once. I’ve never been penalized for it. That must mean the government is fine with it.
I insulted someone in a game and never got penalized for it, so it must mean the moderators in that game are okay with it.
It’s the same kind of logic, no?
That’s the kind of things that happens. Else I guess I hallucinated a couple times in a row, or I mod removed my posts and banned my account by myself. Must be what happened.
Either everything is moderated and censored, or nothing. No in between can exist.
Seriously, come on, that’s not how it works and you know it as much as me.
And fortunately there are still mods that let you speak, people that don’t report you… but what I describe will end up happening if you have these kind of behaviors or point of view.
ChatGPT says any bans you received were justified, and while you like to feign innocence any reasonable person who saw the posts in question would agree with you getting moderated.
It really depends on the community and the mods awake at the time.
One of my accounts got a week ban from a larger community for being “accusatory”. Because I said someone sounded like they were spreading misinformation.
Seeing as I have not been banned for anything I have to disagree.
It depends on the instance and mods I think. I got a temp ban from an instance just citing “bad faith” for asking if there was a source article and getting flamed for “standing in the way of the movement”. I accept that the Libre/FOSS space trends towards more niche user bases, and Lemmy is infinitely better than any other alternatives, but sometimes it feels a bit to close to Emo Phillips “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912”.
Of course it does. Anyone can start their own instance, if there is an issue it is a problem with that instance, not Lemmy as a whole.
The Internet is not obsessed with speed running just because there exists websites on it obsessed with speed running.
Very true, and everyone should keep that in mind. It’s also true that there is an outsized visibility and impact that instances like ML and hexbear have on the zeitgeist/perception of the platform. It doesn’t help that the creators are ML.
The Internet also sends greeting cards and is used for business/stock market trading, but everyone knows that the Internet is FOR porn.
Depends on the things you say, where…
If you’re generally leftist, you should mostly be fine.
Otherwise you get banned for trolling (because ofc they’re right so you’re trolling) or transphobia, because if you don’t agree with everything a trans person says, you’re transphobic. Also, the world belongs to them.
Talk about lesser known subjects by the public or make a mistake yourself? Thats it, you’re banned for misinformation and trolling. Or being a nazi or racist or whatever. The words don’t have a meaning anymore
Also the random ban reasons like “Rule 3” which refers to the most open and subjective rules like “Be civil” or “Dont be a dick” or similar
Sounds like a lot of generalizing. Probably deserved your ban to be honest.
Believe whatever you want. I’m saying that based on my experience.
Yeah, and you made a pretty blanket statement about all trans people, or ig all trans people on Lemmy, based on your experience with like, a handful of people?
If you want an example, I said trans athletes being in man or women categories is a debate and shouldn’t be allowed by default because of inequalities between the individuals, and true equality can never be reached.
I believe the use of “biological men” trigged them when I said that transgender women were that… when I was talking about scientific stuff to make my point.
Super transphobic, watch out! ☢️ -_-
Why would I care about what you said to invite derision? The problem, currently, is your attempted usage of derision to discredit an entire group of marginalized people based on your EXTREMELY LIMITED and STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT experiences.
Boohoo the trans people in the trans community disagreed with me about trans issues and the trans people called me transphobic because I have controversial opinions that I chose to share.
Get over it. Honestly, get over yourself. Grow up.
I’m not discrediting a group or marginalized people haha, I’m discrediting a stupid misinformation and censorship reason
Surely you’re all professional athletes here. And wtf are you talking about? I’m talking about the studies and researches I’ve done, not things I’ve experienced. You’re just lying.
Then you proceed to do some mocking because your post was pretty much empty of any thing so might as well continue
I feel you’re the one getting triggered here. This makes it funnier when you see this totally applies to you
🙏😭 here buddy I’ll slow it down for you
“I’m not discrediting a group of marginalized people”: yes you are! You came on here and made sweeping statements about the trans communities on lemmy based on your limited interactions. That’s what I’m referring to!
“Surely you’re all professional blahblah”: stopped listening because!! That’s!! Not!! What!! I!! Am!! Arguing!! Man! Reading comprehension, buddy. Your PERSONAL, ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCES WITH INDIVIDUAL TRANS PEOPLE IS EXTREMELY LIMITED AND STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT, AND THEREFORE YOU CANNOT MAKE A SWEEPING JUDGEMENT STATEMENT ABOUT THE ENTIRE GROUP. There ya go, did the big letters help you figure it out?
Anyway, you seem really interested in continuing this argument (the trans athlete argument I never commented on a single time)! Almost like you have an agenda.
Studies have found the only Olympic events in which trans women might have an advantage over cis women is mid range sprints. There has been no advantage shown in the short or long sprint events nor any other categories.
If you want to talk about equality in sports the biggest inequality that affects outcomes is money. Athletes with more money poured into them for training and equipment have a significant advantage over other athletes.
Studies did not find that there’s a lack of advantage as well, therefore why use it as a point? What I meant is that there’s place for a debate on this question.
I’ll have to disagree with you on this. Based on my research I did not find conclusive evidence on this. A sample size inferior to thousands is not sufficient to test anyways.
That’s a well known problem. Sadly, not much we can do to fix it without creating other problems. We’re all unequal on this :(
Well based on my research if we stop arguing about trans people in sports and just let people play (because sports don’t actually matter) everyone on earth will become billionaires!
It’s easy to say things, I really do not care what some rando on the Internet came up with by “doing their own research” unless they have receipts. That’s how we got anti-vaxxers and flat earthers.
So we know this is a problem but fixing it isn’t important. Trans people in sports we don’t know is a problem, trying to “fix” it is creating other problems, so why is that more important to focus on?
So not “pretty much anything” then.
I thought it was obvious that it was an exaggeration. If you go out of the normal way, according to the mods, well you’re fucked
Well we’re disagreeing right now, so logically only one of us can be “the normal way” yet neither of us are banned…
I financially frauded once. I’ve never been penalized for it. That must mean the government is fine with it.
I insulted someone in a game and never got penalized for it, so it must mean the moderators in that game are okay with it.
It’s the same kind of logic, no?
That’s the kind of things that happens. Else I guess I hallucinated a couple times in a row, or I mod removed my posts and banned my account by myself. Must be what happened.
Either everything is moderated and censored, or nothing. No in between can exist.
Seriously, come on, that’s not how it works and you know it as much as me.
And fortunately there are still mods that let you speak, people that don’t report you… but what I describe will end up happening if you have these kind of behaviors or point of view.
That is the argument you were presenting, yes. I’m glad we agree that that is absurd.
Nevermind, here you are making the statement you just argued against.
I didn’t. At this point just throw this in ChatGPT or any good LLM so you can understand what I meant
ChatGPT says any bans you received were justified, and while you like to feign innocence any reasonable person who saw the posts in question would agree with you getting moderated.
All I did was misgender Kris by calling them a “xir”.
They were arguing over gender, and I was feeling like being contrarian…
I guess this is supposed to be ironic?
Oh and also the double standards
You can hope for Musk and Trump or any rich fuck to die, but do this with someone else and you’re banned
It really depends on the community and the mods awake at the time.
One of my accounts got a week ban from a larger community for being “accusatory”. Because I said someone sounded like they were spreading misinformation.