• @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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    171 day ago

    I believe it’s actually the opposite. So many extremists or “I don’t agree with you therefore you’re a troll” bullshit.

    You get censored and banned for pretty much anything. Lemmy is no exception and pretty obviously like that.

    • @Psythik@lemm.ee
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      624 hours ago

      I’ve said some vile, fucked up shit while I’m having a bipolar depressive episode, but I have yet to get modded for a single thing.

      You can basically say whatever the fuck you want, like 4chan. But unlike 4chan, Lemmy hasn’t yet devolved into a cesspool of hate and bigotry. Probably only 'cause the average troll is too stupid to figure out how federation works.

    • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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      141 day ago

      You get censored and banned for pretty much anything. Lemmy is no exception and pretty obviously like that.

      Seeing as I have not been banned for anything I have to disagree.

      • @Narauko@lemmy.world
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        It depends on the instance and mods I think. I got a temp ban from an instance just citing “bad faith” for asking if there was a source article and getting flamed for “standing in the way of the movement”. I accept that the Libre/FOSS space trends towards more niche user bases, and Lemmy is infinitely better than any other alternatives, but sometimes it feels a bit to close to Emo Phillips “Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912”.

        • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          It depends on the instance and mods I think

          Of course it does. Anyone can start their own instance, if there is an issue it is a problem with that instance, not Lemmy as a whole.

          The Internet is not obsessed with speed running just because there exists websites on it obsessed with speed running.

      • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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        Depends on the things you say, where…

        If you’re generally leftist, you should mostly be fine.

        Otherwise you get banned for trolling (because ofc they’re right so you’re trolling) or transphobia, because if you don’t agree with everything a trans person says, you’re transphobic. Also, the world belongs to them.

        Talk about lesser known subjects by the public or make a mistake yourself? Thats it, you’re banned for misinformation and trolling. Or being a nazi or racist or whatever. The words don’t have a meaning anymore

        Also the random ban reasons like “Rule 3” which refers to the most open and subjective rules like “Be civil” or “Dont be a dick” or similar

          • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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            118 hours ago

            I thought it was obvious that it was an exaggeration. If you go out of the normal way, according to the mods, well you’re fucked

            • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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              218 hours ago

              Well we’re disagreeing right now, so logically only one of us can be “the normal way” yet neither of us are banned…

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                I financially frauded once. I’ve never been penalized for it. That must mean the government is fine with it.

                I insulted someone in a game and never got penalized for it, so it must mean the moderators in that game are okay with it.

                It’s the same kind of logic, no?

                That’s the kind of things that happens. Else I guess I hallucinated a couple times in a row, or I mod removed my posts and banned my account by myself. Must be what happened.

                Either everything is moderated and censored, or nothing. No in between can exist.

                Seriously, come on, that’s not how it works and you know it as much as me.

                And fortunately there are still mods that let you speak, people that don’t report you… but what I describe will end up happening if you have these kind of behaviors or point of view.

                • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                  Either everything is moderated and censored, or nothing. No in between can exist.

                  That is the argument you were presenting, yes. I’m glad we agree that that is absurd.

                  but what I describe will end up happening

                  Nevermind, here you are making the statement you just argued against.

                  • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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                    17 hours ago

                    Nevermind, here you are making the statement you justargued against.

                    I didn’t. At this point just throw this in ChatGPT or any good LLM so you can understand what I meant

            • @AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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              323 hours ago

              Yeah, and you made a pretty blanket statement about all trans people, or ig all trans people on Lemmy, based on your experience with like, a handful of people?

              • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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                218 hours ago

                If you want an example, I said trans athletes being in man or women categories is a debate and shouldn’t be allowed by default because of inequalities between the individuals, and true equality can never be reached.

                I believe the use of “biological men” trigged them when I said that transgender women were that… when I was talking about scientific stuff to make my point.

                Super transphobic, watch out! ☢️ -_-

                • Why would I care about what you said to invite derision? The problem, currently, is your attempted usage of derision to discredit an entire group of marginalized people based on your EXTREMELY LIMITED and STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT experiences.

                  Boohoo the trans people in the trans community disagreed with me about trans issues and the trans people called me transphobic because I have controversial opinions that I chose to share.

                  Get over it. Honestly, get over yourself. Grow up.

                • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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                  218 hours ago

                  man or women categories is a debate and shouldn’t be allowed by default because of inequalities between the individuals, and true equality can never be reached.

                  Studies have found the only Olympic events in which trans women might have an advantage over cis women is mid range sprints. There has been no advantage shown in the short or long sprint events nor any other categories.

                  If you want to talk about equality in sports the biggest inequality that affects outcomes is money. Athletes with more money poured into them for training and equipment have a significant advantage over other athletes.

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                    Studies did not find that there’s a lack of advantage as well, therefore why use it as a point? What I meant is that there’s place for a debate on this question.

                    There has been no advantage shown in the short or long sprint events nor any other categories.

                    I’ll have to disagree with you on this. Based on my research I did not find conclusive evidence on this. A sample size inferior to thousands is not sufficient to test anyways.

                    Athletes with more money poured into them for training and equipment have a significant advantage over other athletes.

                    That’s a well known problem. Sadly, not much we can do to fix it without creating other problems. We’re all unequal on this :(

        • Oh and also the double standards

          You can hope for Musk and Trump or any rich fuck to die, but do this with someone else and you’re banned

      • Raltoid
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        It really depends on the community and the mods awake at the time.

        One of my accounts got a week ban from a larger community for being “accusatory”. Because I said someone sounded like they were spreading misinformation.