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Cake day: October 4th, 2023

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  • Y’all act like there aren’t millions of Americans that don’t give a shit about school shootings. I’d bet my life savings if “the government” successfully banned guns to prevent school shootings, many of our people would absolutely riot

    Where does anyone find the need to invent shady government plots like free, unregulated access to guns isn’t a very popular policy with many living, breathing, thinking people that have equal (or in many cases greater) voting power as us?


  • I mean, I wouldn’t phrase it that way myself - I have a lot of respect for Cenk/TYT - but I get the sentiment. Are they truly saying what they believe? Have they lost the plot? Did they jump the shark?

    I’ve been really confused by them, moreso since their recent statements on trans folks, their attacking fellow leftists, and now their interest in building alliances with some pretty dodgy people.

    I usually answer a question like yours with some variation of: I can’t tell/don’t have the energy/intelligence to figure it out and it doesn’t matter. Treat them based on their utility to your political goals - things like getting informed, educated, organized.

    That said, if you ask me, I think they need a break. They’re lost in the sauce and don’t know what’s what. Therapy probation wouldn’t hurt 'em either



  • Oh shit another one! lol. I totally understand how landlines work, but thanks for trying to help. It still doesn’t really make sense in the context of a file download being interrupted though. Only the first person to pick up would be interrupting it

    Regardless, “moms” is absolutely a word. Y’all just don’t know/use it. I understand your logic, so there’s no need real to explain it. What’s amusing is the jump to believing it’s a whole other thing instead of just a nickname you don’t know/have yet to learn

    Like, I mean, some folks in the south (or east) call their grandparents meemaw. That was a new one for me. Not the exact same, but you get the idea



  • C’mon dude, the great depression? I’m obviously talking about our lifetimes. Was that a joke? Are you over 100 (and using Lemmy! wow)? More relevant to our chat, do you think the average dumbass American voter compares their life to people living 100 years ago or smth?

    Sure, I’m totally the one nitpicking here.

    Ok, let’s take a step back. I said Dems messaging on the economy sucked. Then, you shilled for brought up Harris and said her messaging was fine or maybe great - it obviously wasn’t since she lost and most voters cited the economy and/or inflation as their biggest concern (key data we should maybe consider here). You then linked an article quoting her. Let me know if I missed what you wanted me to see. Are you trying to say you believe that most Americans would’ve been swayed, or convinced she would really fix the economy?

    We should try to understand the people we’re talking to in a conversation. It’s not productive to converse if you misunderstand or misrepresent their statements. So far this doesn’t seem very productive

    You’ll note that’s very relevant here where what economists mean when they say economy (inflation rate/unemployment) is very different from what most working class Americans mean when they use the word (inflation impact/social mobility/monthly budget). Let me know if that’s not clear. It’s similar to how scientists use theory very differently to most laymen.



  • Sorry for the super slow response. Just got saw ur link.

    I believe we have an extraordinary opportunity to make our middle class the engine of America’s prosperity, to build a stronger economy where everyone, everywhere has a chance to pursue their dreams an aspirations, and to ensure that the United States of America continues to out-innovate and out-compete the world,” said Harris

    Imo, this is a silly and ridiculous thing to say. The economy is absolute shit, it’s not strong it’s worse than it’s ever been. She should’ve said, “to fix this absolutely broken, failed system that serves only the very wealthy” or something like that.

    Also, I said Dems - I never even specified Harris. I had literal conversations with libs on Lemmy downvoting me for saying the economy was shit despite inflation being down and unemployment supposedly being low like I was going against the accepted talking point. The metrics economists use seem purposefully irrelevant,;most Americans don’t really give a shit about those things. This is how you have most Americans cheering for a CEO’s murderer.

    I mean, really, a “strong economy”? What a joke at best, but what a backhanded insult to anyone struggling in the working class at worst.

    That said, happy holidays!! We’ll figure this out together!





  • Yeah, Dems really have a lot of work to do to earn back the trust of most Americans.

    Literally no one I know believes anything they say (or I say about them) or at best they’ll think it’s all performative (which they’re mostly right about). Most folks just don’t really care about news/politics and live normal American lives and feel the struggle. It’s mind blowing to me that our messaging was about how great the economy is and how much better is. Literal insane shit to most working class people.

    Instead of saying the economy is great, they should use another word for what they mean, which is specifically like the rate of inflation/cost of very specific things or like a very specific unemployment rate. Whereas when regular people hear economy, they think of more abstract things like money in their pocket/savings, the cost of groceries, their ability to plan for the future based on stable finances, or even the increasing APR on the credit cards they owe (something we choose to ignore but many struggle with) - none of that shit is great, it’s literally worse than ever. lol




  • If we’re just pulling shit out of our ass, maybe this will encourage conspiracy nuts to actually learn about political organizing and the rich history of well-documented movements from the last 100+ yrs that have resulted in real change/benefits for the working class

    Hell, maybe people will even start reading more! Like, stuff written by authors and shit. lol. Now, that’d be some crazy. lol. I wonder if Musk “and his friends” could ever pull that one off - getting Americans to read/learn - even with their infinite money hacks

    Crazy stuff. Now, hurry up and pass that shit! You’re hoggin it