Here 's one more. I wear glasses for my bad eyesight. I have sunglasses that have the same value of correction. Sometimes, in the summer, when I’m out and I don’t think I’ll go inside anywhere, I leave my normal glasses are home.

So then, when you stop unexpected for groceries, you look like a douchebag with your sun glasses on, but you can’t really take them off because you don’t see shit without them.

If it’s regular maintenance you get a lift that goes higher and you do it when you change the water in the pool. If the pool is empty you can just drive on the floor. Just gotta have something to lower it onto the pool floor.

Well, have you ever stood on a lift like that? I did, on a regular basis. You can lean over quite a bit with them.

Also, the lift itself already has play. You can easily get it to swing 4 centimeters while the base is stationary. It’s just play in bearings and metal slightly bending.

I agree that the lift is not made to be like that. But sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I’ve done worse, that is for sure. But you have to use your brain.

Clearly the platform has great floating capacity. If the platform would not be capable of carrying that load, it would have sunk by now. The lift is in the middle, who j means the load is putting equal pressure on all sides. That has a stabilizing effect.

Water also pushes back. If you’ve every tried to flip a raft in the pool, you know that it is much easier if you move it side to side a few times, the water wil help you push it over, as long as you keep adding energy at every swing. If you don’t, you will stabilize.

Unless something keeps adding energy to the swing, the swing will only get smaller and smaller. If it’s swinging too much? Just stand still, don’t move and let it stabilize.

The one thing to keep in mind is that the higher you go, the bigger the leverage is. At some point it will probably tip over if you swing it too much, but I don’t think those guys are at that point.

But in the end, this is probably not the proper way to do the work. It’s fun to discuss it, but a professional company would arrange something else.

Still legendary though, I’ve worked for companies that would do sketchy shit sometimes and while dangerous, it was also kind of fun. And I always checked for myself first if it was safe. Because I want to go home at the end of the day. Doesn’t mean you have to be scared of everything though.

I always say there are drivers out there who only survive by the grace of other drivers.

Well, it’s always best to listen to the little voice inside, especially if it says “I might just die here”. I completely understand why you would not be climbing on that.

If they have to get out of the lift, it is at it’s lowest position. That means all the weight is in the middle of the platform and the weight of 2 man will not be enough to make the platform flip over.

They will have to jump to the side I suppose. Just step off. Maybe the can even paddle the platform around, I imagine there is at least one piece of rope to manipulate the platform when there is nobody on it.

The lift will go off, the same way it came on. Probably some sort of crane. I cannot imagine they just drove it on there, but maybe they did. Maybe even a forklift with long forks. There are forklifts that could probably handle that kind of weight so far away on the forks.

I get that it looks risky, but I don’t really see a problem here. The platform is in undisturbed water, no waves, no sudden changes. If the platform is strong enough, which it seems to be to me, it will not easily tip over.

I’ve worked on a few lifts like that, and if you manage to tip one over I can only say that you were either really stupid or you were trying to do it. All the weight is at the bottom. They are very stable.

The only way to make them fall over is if your floor is not level while driving. Driving is out of the question in this picture, and as long as both guys stay in the fork lift the center of gravity will not change much.

So the platform will not move, the lift will not move, basically they are fine.

If something was to happen you’re fucked though.

And different solutions are available. I’ve personally been in a different lift that had an arm so the lift would be a the side of the pool and the part where I was standing was elevated above the water. That probably would be a better solution, if you have enough space to get one of those lifts in.

Nope. It’s basically this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOjauGdi1E

Our version has a plate behind so you can stand on that and drive the thing around.

It’s basically a skateboard with front wheels that can turn if you lean on the handle.

When my colleagues were playing, the car made an unexpected pretty sharp turn, which caused them to tumble off and fall on the concrete.

And yes, the wheels will also hang on small stones, small pieces of wood and what not. Which is fine, because it’s made for moving pallets, not people.

They are still being made and used. At a job I had 7 years ago they had two of them. Pretty handy when you need to fill a truck with pallets. I did not need a license.

You need some practice though, I may have fallen off one or two times in a corner. One day a truck driver borrowed it and managed to park the whole back into another pallet. Fun machines.

At my current job we have ones for single pallets, but they can go 4 meter high. I love it, very flexible and small, but you can still put pallets away pretty high.

Yea don’t take the yellow one with two people.

Two of my colleagues tried, one on each side. Did not go well, luckily they got up in one piece.

Don’t worry, Google and Apple already know this…but so far we can only hope they will never agree to do something like that.

And if they do, nobody will know about it anyways.

That made me laugh, thanks!

I would write a lengthy response, but…

There are people who did not stand at the front of the line when intelligence was gifted . But that guy wasn’t even invited at all…

I’ve heard most of the shops sell the same matrassen, but they just give them different names so you cannot compare prices. Which means you can make prices anything you want as long as you have a somewhat believable story about the quality.

Because a machine is expected to do it right the first time. Because it’s supposed to do the exact same thing everytime with the exact same input parameters. If you give it the exact same input every time and you get a different result every time it is not reliable to function as automation.

Humans are just that. Humans. They make mistakes sometimes. The reason humans can keep doing the work is that there is no better alternative. Machines can’t do it, so who else is gonna do it? Either humans build your house or nobody does. There is little choice there.

So if a machine is to take over that job, it better do it right and reliable and cheaper.Because humans can already do it right and reliable. And there’s little money saving if a human still needs to check all the work.

Well, why did it not do it right the first time then? If the doublecheck gives a different result, then which is the right result? If I can ask the same question twice and I get two different answers, how I or the machine known which is the right answer? And if the machine knows, then why would it need to doublecheck? A machine can do it right the first time if it knows how, right?

Yea, well…for the heavy lifting it could be nice. But I’m not letting AI build my house.

Lifting heay crap to the roof or something like that? Sure. That is what machines are good at.

Welding? Well welding robots have existed for long time, they just need to programmed perfectly. I’ve worked with a couple of them, the results are not always consistent and they required some quality checks. It is easier. Manual welding takes more skill and takes longer. I just don’t need the AI part though. That makes it unpredictable. And if I let a robot do something, it should be predictable.

I do woodworking and fixing around the house. Even when building new stuff, there are always issues that you have to solve on the spot. Walls that are not straight, angles that are not perfect, spaces you cannot reach et cetera.

As long as AI does not get it 100% right every time it is not touching my house. And yes, a professional doesn’t reach that rate either, but at least they know and doublecheck themselves and know how to fix things.

I get that you want to help, but be careful with that. You are not a new pair of shoes to be thrown away when used enough.

Keeping a relationship in any form going, just because you want to help is not always a healthy relationship, it can easily turn into one party using the other party. I’ve seen it swing both ways and it’s not pretty.

It actually sounds like that person needs professional help. If you are not a professional, don’t get involved.

Do you have enough normal relationships on your own? And what will happen with those if you have to spend a lot of time on this particular person?

Wanting to help is a natural instinct, but if this person does not seem to build long lasting relationships with anyone there is probably a good reason for that. Trying to keep contact going with somebody like that could easily drain your energy and more. So please be careful.