Afatwa, or religious decree, issued by senior Iranian clerics calling for the assassination of U.S. President Donald Trump has attracted online funding worth tens of millions of dollars, reports say.
Is it illegal for US citizens to donate?
It will certainly land you on some interesting lists
We’re likely on those lists already for using lemmy.
That’s it. We found the most 21st century thing ever:
A GoFundMe for a political assassination.
I saw a billboard (in California) for a gofundme for Texas disaster relief. That feels peak 2025 to me.
Scams all the way down.
And those people have been trained to hate California(ns).
I think Maher is right when it come to how people in shithole states are taught to hate California, when the reality is that they are jealous of Cali.
That’s probably at least partly right, but the most smugly arrogant American that isn’t the Mango Mussolini himself is perhaps not the best messenger for a “they hate me 'cause they ain’t me” message 😄
I doubt most of the teabaggers would listen to anything that counters their emotional beliefs. And yeah, Maher comes across as smug - but he’s not at all wrong…I mean, it’s probably even more true these days since California is the 4th largest economy now.
The people always bitching about Cali (but most likely have never been) have real “I hate the prom queen and prom king, they are so stuck up!” energy.
And you know what, I desperately want my (tax) money to go to supporting them in their disaster.
Things will get wild once someone invents a decentralized assassination market.
Plot twist their CIA version is thinking about a coup… or just as simple a bribe…
link? :p
I seem to recall reading one of the divisive things the cipherpunks on their mailing list discussion was about untraceable digital money (before Bitcoin) and the thought experiment about just this very kind of thing (minus the siren server like GoFundMe, because why would you want that in the mix if you were doing this kind of thing).
Not that anyone set it up, and the many proposals around digital cash did not really gain traction until 2009 or so…but this was from the 90s.
What kind of casserole do you bring to a fatwa fundraiser?
Ham is out, I think.
They’re all out of pork?
There might be some if Ham comes back with it. He’s out right now.
Hamdulah!
nah, I don’t want him to become a martyr. better if he dies from a heart attack on the toilet. 🤷♂️
When this nearly 80 year old fat guy, who loves burgers and hates exercise, eventually has a stroke, the right will still come up with crazy conspiracy theories about his death.
Idiots will find a way to make him a martyr. Hell, idiots thought he was secretly trying to stop Epstein.
That’s the stretch goal, making it look like an accident is at 80 million.
There’s nothing saying such an appropriate demise can’t be surreptitiously expedited.
I have some McDonald’s coupons left over. Can I send them to him?
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interestingly, $35 millions came from a single donation in $MELANIA memecoins
Your comment made me actually open the article. Sadly your comment seems to be fake. I want to believe!!
The comment is real. I see it too.
It’s right there!damn, it actually is! 🤣
The problem is that Trump isn’t actually in charge. He’s just the figurehead who holds everyone’s attention.
You’d have to remove half the supreme court, Congress, the electoral college, and the entire Heritage Foundation if you wanted a chance at fixing the US.
Trump on his own is a bumbling toddler who couldn’t even make his own executive order to sign. I’d rather see him in a nursing home while the people who put him in power get tried for their crimes.
Yes, but since all the bumbling toddlers in the US vote for Trump, he’s a powerful figurehead. I mean, I’m all for killing the rest on your list too, but he’d be a fantastic start.
Starting with Dump would give us President Vance, who could mess things up faster
Also more likely to cause a martyr situation starting with him
imo anything that makes this shit hit rock bottom more quickly so america can rebuild as a non-nazi nation is a good move
The problem is, rock bottom has two paths out. The first is to rebuild as a non-nazi nation. The other is to go full Nazi and just stay at rock bottom for a few decades.
I don’t think reality is that simple
I realize theyre now all in office now, so you may be right. But did anyone notice how the bumbling idiot orange puppet was a critical part of gaining that power?
He is certainly a puppet, but maybe without that puppet, it’ll be like trying to play He-Man when the kid next door took your He-Man figure.
He was just a useful TV star puppet.
He is crucial to their movement though. Most MAGA don’t give a shit about anyone else. This is a cult and without dear leader it will wither.
If Iran were to turn Trump into a glob of orange meat (I mean, more than he is right now), the cult will freak out. Some will blame it on deep state. Clinton and Biden will be name dropped. But there will be nothing to keep the movement going. I think Project 2025 will start to wither as well because no one involved can capture the mob like Trump can.
Only to have Democrats fail to undo a single thing Trump did, just like in 2021. No matter how he dies, Trump and MAGA will haunt the USA for however long it has left before the inevitable collapse.
Deliberately fail
No doubt the cult would fracture
It won’t end with Trump. His followers are brainwashed and will happily follow the next con man like sheep, just as they follow corrupt religious leaders. Not a critical thought in their heads. And anyone but a Dem.
Swap the prisoners in Gitmo for the Heritage Foundation
You’d have to remove half the supreme court
Make that two thirds of the Supreme Court. Most of the worst decisions have been 6-3.
So the plot of Eagle Eye and Designated Survivor.
you can’t fix it, it needs to go
Did you know that it’s illegal to say, “I wish someone would kill the president of the united states”?
Im not saying it, im just letting you know that it’s illegal. Like a public service announcement.
“Fun” fact. Trevor “Fell from his Balcony” and died shortly after this video.
What a weird coincidence.
Edit: Apparently it was a decade later. I was confused.
12 years later is “shortly after”?
No. I was just confused. The first time I saw this was a few months before he died and I guess I didn’t realize it was from years earlier. My bad.
For some reason I thought this was a Matt Walsh bit. Wkuk and ucb occupy a similar area of my brain.
They are pretty similar in a lot of ways. Like how Matt Walsh walks around with a gallon of meth on most days, and he probably has kids tied to his radiator in his basement so he can grape them. Just uncanny really.
I got so many questions I’m not sure I want the answers to.
Two all time classics, although I feel like you missed cat hunting
🤦
Edit to add;I never claimed to be terribly bright.
That’s another good one. Lol
Will no one rid us of this turbulent president?
But I thought murica was the pinnacle of free speech? 😮
Unless it’s part of a piece of art
Okay but what about investing in the Fatwa ETF?
You can, however, wish bad fortune and ill luck befall the president. Its the “I want a person to do a thing” problem because it sounds like you could looking for somebody to hire.
“Freedom of speech” mfs when it’s not about literal speech.
Did you know that it’s illegal to say, “I wish someone would kill the president of the united states”?
Nope: can’t know things that aren’t true.
It’s not a true threat. When someone said
If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.
that, too, was rejected as a true threat. The Secret Service may pay you a visit, though.
So, when are you not killing the president?
Okay, but where are the diagrams?
In the US.
Most countries wouldn’t care at all.
When I see a cheeto on the floor, there is always a demon voice in my head telling me to stomp it with my foot
Just do it
The Nike ad campaign I could get behind
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Kinda figured it would be removed. Which is kind of funny since it’s mentioned right there in the article.
I was curious what it would be like. Looks like a pretty normal fundraiser site. Probably wasn’t worth getting put on another NSA list tho
You mean to tell me that you’re not using a private dns server or at least a vpn?
Just raw-dogging that ethernet, eh?
It just feels better, okay?
I wonder how many VPNs are compromised, TBH.
Here’s a breakdown of major VPN companies, who owns who and what, and who’s independent and who isn’t.
…yeah, according to a vpn company
I get that, I get that, but their data does check out.
Where can I donate?
Bad idea if you live in a country with extradition treaty with the US.
You could end up in gitmo for “providing material support to terrorist activity”, because that is technically what you are doing, money is material support.
I can’t tell you what to do, but like if Iran actually manage to do it, it would be the best excuse to get Iran obliterated from the map, and most NATO countries will probably help with the invasion of Iran under Article 5, since that’s effectively like a 9/11 v2 (not in number of deaths, but in terms of being able to justify a foreign war).
Iran performing the assassination is 100x worse than, say that nutjob in 2024 doing it. If trump die from that kid’s gunshot, there wouldn’t be much happening, but if Iran did it? In this tense political climate where 1/3 of the US population are in a cult? Can you even imagine all the lynchings against Muslims, Arabs, and anyone who “looks middle eastern”?
Any soldiers or national guard that was bordering on “hmm, is this actually legal”, will now not even question their orders. Being anti-trump in the aftermath of this hypothetical assassination would be treated as almost as bad as supporting al-qaeda.
Its not a good idea, IMO.
Why article 5? Is it not only valid if a country suffers an unprovoked attack? It will be hard to argue that bombing a country is not a provocation.
Because the US has intervened in the middle east for a long time before 9/11 and it was actuallt said to be bin laden’s motivation to attack the US. Look at what happened after 9/11; article 5 was triggered. They didn’t seem to think the US interventions in the middle east were a “provocation”.
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Article 5 and Catch 22, which in this case would be formulated as, “They can do anything that we can’t stop them from doing.” One could make that argument, but who’d be listening?
You can get thrown in a concentration camp because your skin’s too dark and you weren’t carrying your ID, even if you’re a US citizen.
That’s one of the side effects about tossing out the rule of law. If merely protesting or having a certain meme on your phone is dangerous, then might as well go all in.
But you also have to consider the “court of public opinion”
Funding a foreign assassination attempt will only unite all of the right-of-center and take away some of support of “centrist”/“conservative” democrats. Bush popularity skyrocketed after 9/11, Patriot Act and all that.
On the otherhand, some right wing nutjob young adult loser having nothing to lose and start targeting policitians left and right (like that kid in 2024), would be your best bet. There won’t be any “rally 'round the flag” effect.
As we can all see with all the US interventions overseas, they clearly don’t work that well, that principle also goes if Iran tries to do their intervention in the US.
And if you aren’t in the US, I’m not sure you wanna risk extradition. Donating money to an Iran sponsored assassination campaign is not an internet meme.
I mean, sure if Europeans wanna send an the military to liberate the US, go ahead. But that €5 donation to an Iranian asasination campaign isn’t really gonna change the US by much and would only put yourself on an extradition plane to the US, because this isn’t a meme, you’re giving material support, so I doubt any of the western countries would deny an extradition request for material support. And even if that plan goes into fruition, you might make the US even worse and in turn, the US could start fucking up the world even more.
Again, I’m not arguing against violence as a strategy, but you’re expecting nazis to be defeated simply by killing hitler, its not that simple.
Funding a foreign assassination attempt will only unite all of the right-of-center and take away some of support of “centrist”/“conservative” democrats.
If it’s done in full seriousness, sure. But, the left can play the same game the right does. “Haha, it’s a joke, I just donated $10 to the kill Trump GoFundMe, isn’t that hilarious! What’s wrong, MAGA? Triggered? What snowflakes! Relax, it isn’t real, it’s just a joke. OR IS IT!? Haha, only joking, you thought I was serious. You MAGAs just can’t take a joke!”
If Trump were assassinated, I would celebrate, and donate to the assassin’s defense fund. I don’t care if MAGA Nazis consider me a terrorist. Fuck them and their treasonous, corrupt ignorance.
As he lived for creating chaos, his own death would make him happy. The man who destroyed civilization has a certain ring, doesn’t it?
Perhaps move to Iran first, then you can really appreciate the greatness of that society and their great struggle against evil.
A temporary alliance in a common goal is fine. Whatever Iran is doing it doesn’t deserve the Israel/US bombing and war crimes.
clearly you never played modern warfare 2 https://youtu.be/a8ZGee3mzbE
Crowdsourcing your assassination is an interesting plan.
Did Iran just create KillStarter?
GoKillHe
Where do I donate?
What are the stretch goals? I mean, we have a whole slew of shitbags the world would be better off without.
“The above sum ($40,286, 867) will be received by the people who have committed themselves to any freedman who will carry out the sentence of justice.”
($45,286, 867)
“A photo of the deceased will be published.”
($50,286, 867)
“A recording of their last words will be published.”
($60,286, 867)
“Ol’ Pete will get the Russian resignation treatment.”
($65,286, 867)
“Marco will get a special tea to drink.”
Is Rupert Murdoch still alive?
He’s the new Kissinger. Death has been trying to claw machine him since that SSS Kissinger pull.
“Only the good die young”
I believe so, unfortunately.
If some Iranians want to hunt down and put an end to some vile child molester’s wretched existence, who am I to stand in their way?
