• @happydoors@lemmy.world
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    87 days ago

    Can the journalists please headline home as “American”, not leading off with a place he lived over half a century ago?

  • @salacious_coaster@infosec.pub
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    1988 days ago

    Across the country, 10 people have died in ICE custody since January.

    I think at this point we can characterize it as killing. ICE is killing people.

    • @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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      27 days ago

      Out of curiosity, if they weren’t mistreating people, what would the expected number of deaths be given the total number of people-days of detention since January?

    • @Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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      I can only imagine that they’ll hand pick the most heartless people they can find to run the detention centers.

      Have we not heard multiple stories from people detained how all they get is a space-blanket and pretty much have to sleep on concrete?

      • Alaknár
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        15 days ago

        While I hate what’s happening in the US right now as much as the next guy, let’s not over-inflate the language used. It doesn’t help anybody.

        If we start calling what’s currently there “ICE death camps” because 10 old people died across the whole country, people will get jaded, will start ignoring the cries for help as alarmist. And THEN the actual death camps will show up, but by that time nobody will be paying attention.

        Exactly as it happened with Gaza.

      • Nougat
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        168 days ago

        We are all being killed on this glorious day.

      • Maeve
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        108 days ago

        Before that it was DHS, FBI, various police sheriff’s departments. It’s just escalating and will continue to do so.

      • the complete silence about everyone else who was deported there is the scariest fact.

        the media just forgot about them, they latched on one person and the rest are forgotten. they will likely never see the lights of day.

        • @VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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          87 days ago

          Because they’re invisible now.

          We sent reporters over there and now those reporters are threatened against speaking up.

  • @doortodeath@lemmy.world
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    Without process, kidnapped in the streets, courtrooms and homes to be killed in detention. How can you accept this from your own country? The USA needs a revolution

    Edit: I am very happy and would never consider suicide

    • Miles O'Brien
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      268 days ago

      It’s been so great the last 10 years saying “this is what will be happening because the neo-nazis are taking over” and everyone telling me I’m overreacting, I’m being hyperbolic, I’m exaggerating or my favorite “you’re just being dramatic”

      Remember, THERE’S NO WAY they’d overturn Roe v Wade.

      • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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        58 days ago

        It’s really a very small consolation that one can now actually go “fucking told you so.”

        • thedruid
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          37 days ago

          Yep. But I hate saying I told you so

          So , welcome to miami

          • @Dasus@lemmy.world
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            27 days ago

            I hate the situations in which I have to say “I fucking told you so”, but I do love saying “I fucking told you so.”

            Petty, I know.

    • @peteyestee@feddit.org
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      The crazy people were/are right.

      This isn’t a post making calling you crazy…

      …The crazy people are actually right. Knowing parts of the truth makes them crazy.

  • @BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
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    No, he didn’t just magically and coincidentally “die”.

    This was murder. We must never forget what is happening right now and we must never forgive any accomplice. Someday, they will be held accountable. Never forgive or forget the terror, slavery, torture, deprivation of human rights, and murder enacted by this administration and its accomplices.

    • two possibilities, both likely (at the same time).

      a) Ice does not provide basic necessities to live, like food/water/restrooms/access to emergency healthcare… and people will die.

      b) there are so many people detained that it is statistically likely people will die of natural causes (you dont become immortal just because you’re detained.

      most likely both of those options at the same time.

      • chingadera
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        38 days ago

        They don’t have that many yet. They have less than most major colleges I’m pretty sure.

    • @Karrion409@lemmy.world
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      The sad thing is I don’t think it will be the USA putting them to trial. It’ll be other nations that are picking through the rubble or individual governments after the united states balkanizes. Maybe I’m too pessimistic about things but I just don’t see a way we get out of this whole.

  • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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    228 days ago

    Republicans call him a criminal. Crossing the border has a criminal act, so that’s all they need for justification.

  • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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    208 days ago

    Was he one of the Cubans mad that his family lost their slaves and plantations? And voted for Trump?

    • Catoblepas
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      298 days ago

      Would that make it okay for ICE to abduct him without due process and kill him?

      Keep in mind you’re talking about someone who came to the US as a 15 year old child.

      • Masterbaexunn
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        198 days ago

        Nobody deserves that.

        That said, cubans overwhelmingly support the old orange doofus.

        Disfruta lo votado.

        • Catoblepas
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          18 days ago

          Si no tuviera la ciudadanía, no podría haber votado.

          • Muchos cubanos apoyan al partió republicano por ser anti comunista, cuidados o no. Aún siendo cuidado es posible ser deportado. Ni sería novedad que le pase a un veterano. En un episodio de NPR había una historia de un señor que pensó que era ciudadano. Hasta se unió al ejército y fue a vietnam. Luego trabajo como patrulla fronteriza. Se le descubrió que su acta de nacimiento era falsa y fue deportado.

      • Avid Amoeba
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        78 days ago

        Of course not but it’s important context for people who don’t know why a good chunk of Cuban Americans vote Republican.

        • Catoblepas
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          If you only have a problem with it when it happens to the ‘wrong people’ then you have a lot in common with Trump voters 🤷‍♂️

          And how tf is someone who was getting deported voting in presidential elections? Only citizens can do that.

          • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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            38 days ago

            I only dont have an issue when people who demanded something happens, has it happen to them.

            Am I sad if an arsonist burns in a fire they set? No. Was I said when the billionaire crusher crushed the billionaires? No.

            All examples of people getting what they demanded.

            • Catoblepas
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              Except you have no evidence any of that is happening here. You know he was a Cuban immigrant who has been here since he was 15 and made up the rest.

              Why am I having to be in this thread explaining that collective guilt and blaming children for where they were born is deranged?