That’s fucking wild! Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords. It will start with “we’re only targetting cartels” and conclude with “these terrorists are purposely using hospital staff as human shields, what would you have us do?!”
Wild take here but I don’t really think the US should be bombing ANY other nation.
Not even Israeli or Russian troops in Palestine or Ukraine?
The US could just stop sending weapons to Israel and the fighting will stop too. As for Ukraine, Zelensky has tried to make deals with Russia before and the West told him not to because they promised they’d continue backing him with more weapons that would give them the edge, which the US is obviously reneging on now (which, to be fair, is something Trump sort of said he’d do, so you could argue that’s been democratically decided).
Agreed on Israel, but you are WILDLY misrepresenting the context and tenor of the Ukrainian war.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
They were close to a deal during a relative high water mark (Ukraine had just taken Kharkiv back and a huge chunk of the east). They’ve only gone backwards since and whatever deal they can get now will most likely be worse.
They were not close to a deal. Putin’s desired endgame is “I own Ukraine”. Ukraine’s desired endgame is “Ukraine continues to exist and isn’t constantly hammered by Russian missiles and bombs”. There’s not really much room for negotiation there. Moreover, Putin has negotiated in demonstrably bad faith multiple times over the course of the war (and I mean since 2014, when they used unmarked soldiers to annex parts of Ukraine and “held a referendum”). I’m not claiming Ukraine is a flawless paragon of virtue, but at the same time, there are VERY clear good guys and bad guys in the Ukrainian government war. Russia is the bad guys.
I didn’t ever say the Russians were the good guys. I’m saying the West is happy to keep Ukrainians fighting and dying for geopolitical reasons. Zelensky was elected on a platform of making a deal and ending the war, and he wasn’t allowed to do that by the West.
Eventually there will be a peace, and even though it would be fair that Ukraine gets all its territory back, realistically that’s not going to happen (and if it did, there’s the question of what happens to all the Russian speakers in those areas). The deal he could’ve gotten right after the failed Russian invasion would’ve been better than whatever he can get now, especially with Trump now basically being in Putin’s side.
It’s just a case of the US continuing to push too far thinking you can just beat Russia with better technology, even though history has shown that Russian leaders are perfectly happy to just throw men into the battle until the enemy runs out of ammo.
Cool source broI was wrong, this is independent of Pravda in Russia. My bad.
So a Ukrainian news paper isn’t good enough? I can find other sources for the same story if you like. Or you can search for stories that explore the background of Johnson’s sudden Kyiv trip yourself.
Correct. The US should stick to the tried and true method of supplying the weapons, teaching users how to maximize their effectiveness, and assist in the logistics of the altercations.
Or just stop sticking our nose into everyone else’s business.
Into Russia’s business? Because assisting Ukraine is not “sticking our nose in” their business any more than the fire department is sticking their nose in your business when you call to report a fire.
Haha I respect that
Whoa! Calm down!
Mexico is not South Sudan or Afghanistan, failed states ruled by warlords
I’ll note that for the latter, it’s a failed state ruled by warlords because the US rolled in and fucked everything up.
Afghanistan was all fucked up long before that.
Arguably, Afghanistan has never been united as a nation in the way we think about it, at least not for long. The cycle seems to be short decades of control under some power followed by decades of decentralization and local powers.
I mean it wasn’t exactly a shining example of progress and order, but it wasn’t a failed state.
This statement is only relevant if your knowledge of history started in 1980.
I mean given that the war on terror started in 2001, we don’t need to go back any further than 1980.
Well then, I guess it was perfect and stable prior to 2001, no need to investigate further!
But Taliban was in power before the 2001 invasion.
Okay, and? Like them or hate them (jk you should hate them) but they had a state; it wasn’t “a failed state ruled by warlords”.
That’s debatable
No it’s not? A failed state is one in which the state can’t punish a significant amount of non-state sanctioned violence, which wasn’t the case in Afghanistan.
I suppose if you use that definition then when America invaded it became a failed state run by warlords and now it has recovered.
Yeah exactly. Now, being a non-failed state, they can start the long, gruelling process of cultural and political evolution. That’s why you’re hearing about Afghani human rights activists now but not ten years ago.
“this film is dedicated to the brave mujahideen fighters of afghanistan”
No, it’s a failed state because the cartels have more power than the government. Stop blaming your own country, traitor.
failed states ruled by warlords
Do you have any idea how many candidates get murdered in elections in Mexico?
Or Russia?
Nobody gets murdered in Russia. They just accidentally fall out of windows because they’re clumsy.
Weird non-sequitur, but okay.
Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant, but my point is that there are other countries that have similar issues to Mexico, but we don’t bomb them.
Russia has nuclear weapons, which is the main reason.
And Putin is a great person and Orange’s friend according to Orange.
Biden didn’t bomb Russia either, this is a bipartisan policy.
Russia doesn’t share a border with your country, while being home to a number of brutal cartels run by ex US military special forces.
Also, we are literally bombing Russia by proxy right now.
Israel a better example.
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Scare tactics 101 by the left.
Anyone else getting tired of this guy?
- a german citizen, 1940
In 1935. By 1940 everyone who was able to say that was already not in a position to say anything. US is just at the beginning of the journey.
Oh brother… here we go again…
About 90 years later, yep. Here we go again…
Same suckers, different century.
Let us know when you’re being sent to gas chambers…
Here we go…
Yup.
Nope. Not the majority of us who voted for him.
Not a majority. Maybe not even a plurality.
Okay.
Drone bombing? So, like, starting a war?
I’ll be interested to see how that pans out. Another powerful Dictator recently invaded a much smaller weaker nation, and that didn’t turn out how everyone expected, so…
There are over 65 MILLION hispanic people in the US, many of them have family or other connections in Mexico.
If this clown started a war with fucking Mexico, it would end just like his “war with canada” with millions of people marching on DC and dragging his bloated, festering orange ass out of the white house with force and likely exacting their own justice out on the lawn. Americans have been wounded, but they still have limits.
Trump (or his team) know this, that’s why they’re saying all this shit, because they KNOW it riles up people who aren’t his supporters. They are deliberately trying to stoke division so that the Trump-haters and Trump-lovers go to war with each other. That is their ideal fantasy because it would allow martial law, revocation of rights, and like, five more terms of various Trump family members sitting on the throne.
Their trick is going to be riding the line long enough so that people tune out and stop caring about the lesser crimes he’s doing all day, every day.
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We’re a bit busy protecting ourselves from the US.
You Americans can fix your own damn problems.
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Hint: Germans didn’t fix it by themselves.
Of course, but the rest of the world didn’t take those actions until after the German military moved into several other countries. And that action was done in the defense of those other countries as much as it was to spank the Germans.
Nobody is coming to the US to save the US from itself. Things will have to get a helluva lot worse before that happens.
And it won’t be done to rescue the Americans, it will be intended to beat them into submission.
Plus, the rest of the world remembers that the Americans didn’t help us in WW2 until the war finally came to their shores, after the rest of us had been fighting for 3 years.
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Yes by siding with the Germans
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If I’m not mistaken, the US spends more on military than the rest of NATO combined. How do you imagine a military engagement against the US would end for us?
Poorly but the US would lose like the loser country they are. MFs couldn’t win against Vietnam or Afghan peasants.
It doesn’t quite feel right for other countries have to send their citizens to fight and die against a former ally just because American citizens can’t hold their government accountable.
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depopulate is a pretty weird way to say “genocide”….
i, from my armchair, think it’s more about “hearts and minds”… as in, according to the us army guerilla warfare handbook, a guerilla army is impossible to defeat if they are well supported by the populace.
they can always disappear into someone’s home, and can always get new supplies….
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Sorry mate, that’s on you. Your founding padres even told you that unless you water your tree of liberty you might not keep your republic (paraphrasing Jefferson and Franklin here).
These fuckers were supposedly accepting gunning down children every once in awhile because “guns are needed to resista tiranny”. Lmao.
Oh brother…
If you want to know how it came to be that Palestinians elected and supported Hamas, just watch in real time as Mexican cartels step up to help Mexico resist American imperialism. I guarantee it will play out in an eerily familiar way if Trump keeps playing these games.
Trump thinks literally everyone is supposed to be subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.
I say Mexico drone strikes the source of it’s gang’s weapons supply; namely the gun manufacturers in the United States.
subordinate to the U.S. because 'murica.
Not quite - he wants them to be subordinate to him.
In olden days, Kings would force fealty by forcing others to “kiss the ring”. That’s exactly what he tries to do - and what was behind the ridiculous display with his guest, President Zelensky.
We’ve seen him hide behind his title again and again when people challenge him “You don’t speak to the president like that!” Yet any small successes are entirely his doing. Shameful, if the man had any shame whatsoever.
I’d like to point out that we’re in this mess because Mexico doesn’t do enough to stop the cartels. No matter who Lemmy and Reddit spin it, the cartels are horrible organizations that commit horrible crimes.
I’d like to point out that we’re in this mess because the US doesn’t do enough to stop gun companies arming the cartels. No matter how Fox News and The Washington Post spin it, gun companies are horrible organizations that commit horrible crimes.
Disclaimer: this response is solely to point out that that ZK686 is a bumbling shortsighted idiot and in no way represents an endorsement of Claudia Sheinbaum who is an evil piece of shit.
Why is she a piece of shit?
First of all, I didn’t say she was a piece of shit, I said she was an evil piece of shit. The evil part is very important. With that out of the way:
- She campaigned on the “no rich government with poor people” slogan and used it as justification to launch an “austerity plan” that cut funding to government programs, social welfare and infrastructure development while her appointed Secretary of Communications hired her own dad for a 12,000,000 MXN New Year’s show.
- Remember the austerity plan? She keeps around a makeup artist that charges 100,000 MXN a month while 60% of the country has to survive on less than 13,000 MXN.
- She proudly claims to have made the country safer because the number of homicides went down while willfully ignoring that the number of missing persons has been the highest it’s ever been for 2 years in a row.
- Sinaloa is currently in the middle of a war between two of the biggest cartels in the country. When asked how is she gonna deal with this, she replied “Guanajuato is worse”. Guanajuato is one of the few states that her party doesn’t control so this was definitely a calculated statement.
- When actually forced to make a statement about what the hell is she gonna do to protect the people of Sinaloa, she said “we’re working on it but violence is not the answer so we won’t send the army”.
- A month before she took office, the National Guard investigated a ranch suspected to have ties with the cartels and supposedly found nothing. Six months later, a civil collective made up of the families of cartel victims entered the ranch and found a literal extermination camp. She maintains nobody died in there.
- During her time as governor of Mexico City, one of the metro lines collapsed killing 23 people. She was quick to blame the previous governor and hired independent Norwegian contractor Det Norske Veritas (DNV) to carry out a forensic analysis to clean her name. They concluded that the line collapsed due to a lack of maintenance, so she promptly claimed DNV was colluding with her political opposition to undermine her government and threatened to sue if they released the results of the analysis.
- Wonder what happened to that previous governor she tried to blame for the collapse of the metro line? She appointed him as Secretary of Economy.
- While serving as “Jefa de Delegación” (sort of like a mayor) of Tlalpan, an elementary school collapsed during an earthquake killing 19 children. She claims to not have been aware of the irregularities in the construction but when the families of the victims tried to get a copy of the city records for the structural safety of the school, she provided a file that ended right before she was elected mayor and then proceeded to declare everything else as “classified”.
Wtf an evil bitch in sheep’s makeup…
Let us know when you’re leaving for better things!
Well, this doesn’t make any sense. Then again, nothing you said does.
I’d like to point out that you’re in this mess because the US system has failed its citizens so badly that addiction is rampant and there is little to no social support for mental health or people experiencing poverty. Not to mention that your government provided those guns to the mexican cartels AND played a huge role in causing drug addiction in the US in the first place.
I have said it before and will say it again, the demand for drugs comes from WITHIN the US. Fix your social support systems and stay the fuck out of everyone else’s business.
Thank you. This seems like common sense.
Let us know when you’re leaving…
Does the US do enough to end it’s addiction to drugs?
You cut the head of the snake to stop the poison… this is common sense.
That means you cut the demand on drugs rather than the people supplying the drugs, right?
Bye.
I mean… I’m sorry to say, but they are. Not what I want but how it is. The US has controlled and bullied its neighbors and South America for a while now.
I think you might be misinterpreting her words as descriptive rather than prescriptive. Mexico do declare they ain’t subordinate
