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France demands a mineral deal and a thank you
The US should be more thankful. And should wear a suit
Unfortunately, this didn’t really happen
Thanks for this. We need a way of flagging satire or misinformation more clearly. I don’t think it’s enough to have it buried in the comment sections.
I would say it’s obvious satire but then i remembered the reality we live in
Personally I take everything here very seriously as the community is clearly called credibledefense
That doesn’t mean anything to me.
Maybe we should put these types of posts into a community and say that it’s non-credible in the name.
Well. Seeing as this is NCD…
It may be satire, but it could absolutely be real life. France is kinda lame and French people kinda suck.
Edit: if i had said the same thing about America, all you (lemmy users) Americans would all be like “yeah fuck smerica!” And I’d have up votes. But this is the leftist shithole called lemmy
Nothing lame about calling in a big loan !
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Your history lesson seems to forget America helping France, both financially and strategically, during and after WW2. I dislike the US position right now, but to suggest they’ve somehow been freeloading is patently false, and the rest of the world, Europe in particular, has relied heavily on the US since the end of WW2.
It’s not like the USA oligarchy would pay… It would come from taxpayer’s money.
And they’re already flooded in debt.
Anyway, I wouldn’t oppose (nor is my place to decide, haha)
NGL the USA becoming a French Colony would fix 90% of the political issues currently plaguing it.
Eh, it would probably end up like Haiti
Comparatively, check out how the US handled Bikini Atoll and Puerto Rico
How considerate to have a guy in the corner translating to Italian.
Mama Mia spaghetti carbonara!
That’s alright, I know a little Italian
Yeah, uhuh. I think if you look at the papers, that debt was owed to a king whose head ended up in a basket. 🧺. That was, hmm, quite a few French republics ago.
Meanwhile, why don’t we discuss that little Normandy caper that one time
By the rules of “we got there first”, France would owe Canada for that one.
This is a joke about the US’s recent demands for Ukraine to ‘pay back’ the aid given to defend its independence against Russian imperialism and genocide.
Sure let’s talk about Normandy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_liberation_of_France
More specifically, Lilly estimated that U.S. servicemen committed around 3,500 rapes in France between June 1944 and the end of the war.[10]
Rape per capita in 2022 France: ~116 per 100,000 men
Rape per capita in 2022 England and Wales: ~234 per 100,000 men
Number of American troops in France during WW2: ~2,300,000
Estimated American rape per capita in WW2 France: ~152 per 100,000 American soldiers
By those numbers, it would be safer to be a French woman with an American soldier in WW2, than to be a woman with an English man today.
cut this crap.
- Your numbers are
wrongcherrypicked - Your hypothesis is wrong
- Your conclusion is wrong
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country
Your numbers are wrong
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country
By your own source, it would be 118 per 100,000 men in France and 218 per 100,000 men in England and Wales.
You appear to bend the numbers every step of the way to support a conclusion you simply can’t draw. Here’s the laundry list of issues:
1. The reported numbers of today and the estimated numbers from 1944 are uncomparable I find it crazy to use a multiplier within the same scale to 1944 rapes as to 2022 rape.
A) Reporting patterns changed over the years: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_France #Statistics)]
B) Definitions had changed over the years such as inclusion of marital rape which : [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_France#Marital_rape] [https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jo-Lovett/publication/238713283_Home_Office_Research_Study_293_A_gap_or_a_chasm_Attrition_in_reported_rape_cases/links/00b7d52a09b4935e0e000000/Home-Office-Research-Study-293-A-gap-or-a-chasm-Attrition-in-reported-rape-cases.pdf]
C) Increases happened in inclusion of female perpetrators into the convictions (it’s about 4% in France but it’s still a major shift from 0%) [https://www.statista.com/statistics/1085508/people-indicted-sexual-violence-france-gender-age/] and male victims in the estimates [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8713172/]
D) Age of consent was redefined over the years, with now 3rd of 2022 rapes were committed against underaged girls (younger than 15) in France.
2. You can’t draw conclusions on population distribution-dependent statistics, by assuming a 50-50% distribution but a 100% perpetration rate by one sex. In fact natives males are quartered diffusely with females, whereas solders are quartered with males predominantly and thus the distribution is uneven. Since the majority of present-day rapes happen between current or past intimate partners (60%), the patterns are very much different. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1158136009000486?casa_token=egmg2OrX84oAAAAA:an10FT7p5uFwGrxUWjhU1IH3Awc6oOR8tyrEZlkuqE88WHE7R-pcvEmCyTYY9EYJap6yFJA3
The fair way to compare these stats is to that of German and Russian forces from the same time, which is totally fair game. But bending numbers to claim that women were safer with GI Joes in 1944 than in present days is just fucking bullshit.
- Your numbers are
whats with the little guy in the corner
Sign Language Interpreter.
Sorry, that deal was made with the French royal family, not the republic. It’s null and void.
It doesn’t matter. The debt was repaid in 1795 by James Swan, a banker who assumed the debt from the U.S.
If you transfer debts and loans they’re still valid, it’s what the ussr Russia exchange did.
The debt was already paid anyways
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You do realize that I was using the argument that the US gov’t used before Swan paid it off privately, right? It may be a joke, but I do know that much of early American history.
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Start with musk’s fortune and go down the wealthiest Americans list.
Eh only if the use that money to rebuild Haiti
Checking if I’m still banned from this community after I said Ukraine was not gonna enter NATO.
Edit: yay, now I can say “I told you so”
You were never banned from this NCD.
But congratulations for predicting that Trump would be elected and now celebrating it, I guess?
Nah actually my comment was Ukraine wouldn’t join NATO regardless of acting president because it wasn’t within the USA’s interest similar to how they stalled F-16 access for 3 years.
Also yeah I was banned from the reddit copy NCD lol: https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense
I’m still not sure you’re correct, they could always join after the US leaves.
Probably better off just trying to join the EU though
I don’t think France would want to open up the indemnity/ reparations conversation…
i mean they did give us democracy, existentialism, and the blow job…
…menage à trois…soixante-neuf…
But aside from those, what have the French done for us?
Baguette, croissant, macarron
Yes, yes, but other than that, what have the French really ever done for us?
Napoleonic law, the metric system, pasteurization
Well, yes, but other than that?
The guillotine?
