• @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    “The Republican bill is a terrible option,” Schumer said in his remarks. “It is deeply partisan. It doesn’t address far too many of this country’s needs. But I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.”

    You fucking twat

    • @PugJesus@lemmy.world
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      OK democratic leadership, you win; I’ll quit voting for your party.

      May not matter at the rate we’re going.

    • IndescribablySad@threads.net
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      Just quitting voting isn’t enough, join a local political group. Worst case scenario, they get radical and you’re too into it so you end up on the news. Best case scenario, they get radical and you’re not into it so you go home and plan your meals for the week.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        23 months ago

        As we all know there’s nothing else to vote for. Please don’t look below the first two options on your ballot or voter registration! Or look at the history of political parties in the US!

    • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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      If Republicans didn’t have majority then there wouldn’t be any DNC making difficult choices. Not voting for democrats is exactly what caused this problem you’re supposedly outraged by.

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        I’ve held my nose and voted for the Democrats my entire adult life, including mid-terms. Guess I just gotta take it up the ass like the good rube that I am, since the Democrats don’t know how to win.

        • @atomicorange@lemmy.world
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          Primary them. The primary is where a protest vote actually matters. It’s where you’ll get the opportunity to replace your dem with a BETTER candidate instead of a worse one in the general election.

          • Rusty Shackleford
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            I agree. What really disheartened me and cemented them as “Corpo-fascist Lite” was the DNCs fuckery against Bernie Sanders and his willingness to let the chairwoman and Hillary get away with it.

        • @finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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          Why are you ashamed at yourself for doing the correct thing? Likening yourself to a cuck surrendering to rape because you voted for your own wellbeing and that of others?

          I’m not seeing the connection here. Maybe keep your weird sexual fantasies out of politics, or start assigning blame where it deserves to be.

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            I was speaking figuratively. The “blame” for the inability to win lies upon the corporatist/“fascist-lite” DNC and their sycophants and cronies. Especially considering that in the last election, they had the largest campaign war-chest in recorded history and still lost. They’ve continuously paid lip-service to the working class and now they wonder why they lose they’re hated.

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              This is an Atroturf if I’ve ever seen one. You literally praise the GOP and insult the DNC in one breath, even accuse the DNC of corporatism lmao like have you not followed politics at all in the last 35 years?

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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        43 months ago

        Yes, being mad at the people who are enabling trump’s bullshit means you must support trump.

        Braindead take.

  • loaf
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    I quit. American politics are a circus sideshow full of dancing turds. At this point, let it burn. The side that I vote for won’t even stand up against this shit, so what good is my vote now?

    Just a bunch of rich assholes doing whatever they want.

      • loaf
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        I’m just so disappointed in the fact that there are so many people in this country that actually voted for this shit. How can people sell themselves out like that, just to be able to say, “I owned the libs loool”

        I don’t even know what to think anymore.

        • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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          Cmon, they cheated. We all know it. Even they know it. And by not addressing it and shining a light on it, Democrats are INVITING them to do it again in 2026 and 2028. In 2028, HitlerPig will win his unConstitutional reelection with 98% of the vote, and use that “overwhelming popularity” to justify ignoring the Constitutional prohibition against a third term.

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      Come to Europe. We got ice cream and free healthcare. Also you don’t need a gun to protect yourself when going out for a walk.

      • @littlebrother@lemm.ee
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        I think those of us who want to leave cant…

        I mean I KNOW I’m fucked, I’d save my wife…but who would accept us? Likely not one single European nation.

        • @Master@lemm.ee
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          All of them will if you have a million in the bank… If not then its a long hard road.

            • @FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee
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              33 months ago

              Don’t need to be exactly rich.

              What are the obstacles to taking this step? Is it only a financial matter? What is you and your wife’s profession? You can pm me if you want to.

              • @littlebrother@lemm.ee
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                Unfortunately internet stranger. I cannot divulge my information, my wife’s a tech teacher and I’m screwed. It’s about it.

            • @tamal3@lemmy.world
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              I’m a middle school teacher and my partner builds houses. What country in Europe will take us? It’s a nice thought, but no one will accept us.

              • lost_faith
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                A little closer than Europe, Canada needs both. Depending on age and some other factors it shouldn’t be too hard, tho it is not easy. Just don’t choose Quebec or New Brunswick if you don’t speak french

                Here is a link to our Express Entry

              • Zedd
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                Albania. It’s nice here. There’s a construction worker shortage, and no shortage of jobs for teachers that speak English. You can even show up and hang out for up to a year with no visa.

              • @FreeRangeMustard@lemm.ee
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                Teachers and construction workers are always welcome. The teaching part could be a problem because of the language and licenses, but maybe a state were English is a more common language.

    • @OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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      That’s why the American people have to do it themselves. Take to the streets. The system has failed you. No one will save you but yourselves.

  • @anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Just for the record, this is what democrats always do, and it’s why they keep fucking losing.

    Democrats would rather have trump than have a social-democratic platform, and it shows every time they have the opportunity to fight him and chose to capitulate instead. The democrats aren’t a left-wing party, certainly not now, and arguably not since FDR.

    • @yarr@feddit.nl
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      The problem is, both parties serve someone, and it’s not the common man. The Republican party is a lot more effective at maintaining the illusion – look at how many of their constituents consistently vote against their own interests and are proud to do so.

      There’s people working for Federal agencies RIGHT NOW that have either already been terminated or are on the rocks and they are STILL Trump supporters. They are willing to destroy their own lives just to “own the libs” and it will be interesting to see how far this trend will be taken.

  • @TemplaerDude@lemm.ee
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    Do-nothing Democrats strike again.

    Schumer is a coward and a fraud. The weakest leader in a generation. He should resign in shame.

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            if it’s not homophobia, can you explain why “sucking dick” and “getting railed” are implied to be embarrassing or otherwise “bad” things for a guy to do?

            • I swear, you Democrats completely suck at picking and choosing your battles, and that’s part of why you’re stuck with weaklings like Schumer. Do you think someone’s going to have the guts to stand up to Republicans if they grovel and beg for forgiveness the second someone gets offended over a joke they made? Weak.

              There’s Republicans out there working to literally erase gay and trans folks from the planet. Those Republicans are the people you need to focus on fighting, not the guy who made a bad joke yet is clearly on our side.

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              I’d have said, and have said the same for Pelosi.

              The implication being that he’s their bitch. He’d take any shitty deal they threw at him because he’s Daddy’s good little representative.

              Frankly y’all sound like you came straight from Twitter the way you jumped on the most offensive interpretation you could think of and ran with it.

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                  I didn’t think it was. I made a crass joke, I know what I said. You’re virtue signaling, very liberal of you.

              • Dude… Fuck these weak-ass Democrats. They’re too big of pussies to fight Republicans, so instead they pick fights with “allies” like you and I over making stupid jokes.

                God, I wish my country’s two-party system didn’t consist of one party filled with fascist Nazis and the other party filled with easily-offended pussies who would rather eat their own than stand up to the fascist Nazis.

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                  It’s wild. Chin up though, I’ve been to quite a lot of demonstrations this last month and it’s getting more and more promising. I even got my Joe Rogan worshipping fuck of a co-worker to attended the veterans marches last Friday, so the more sane ones are waking up.

                  Arm yourself. Find community. Resist.

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              Agreed. Unfortunately, Lemmy also took a step back to 2010s reddit when it comes to tolerance and self-analysis too, apparently. Schumer is terrible but he’s terrible in a way that doesn’t have to be articulated as a slightly elaborated version of “that’s gay”

              • Oh good god, get over it. Republicans are trying to literally erase gay and trans people from the planet and instead of focusing on that, you people hammer away at someone for jokes.

                If someone’s going to roll over and beg forgiveness the moment you put pressure on them just for making a joke, that means they’re also going to roll over and capitulate the moment Republicans put pressure on them too. This is why Democrats are stuck with weaklings like Schumer.

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                No. Stop. We don’t need people “speaking up” against folks on our side for making jokes right now. That’s how we got stuck with weak pansies like Schumer.

                If someone’s willing to beg forgiveness the moment someone gets offended over one of their jokes, that person’s also going to roll over and capitulate the moment Republicans put any pressure on them.

                Start picking and choosing your battles more wisely, Democrats. The guy making bad gay jokes yet still votes Democrat isn’t your enemy. The Republicans trying to erase gay and trans people from existence are.

                • @feddylemmy@lemmy.world
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                  Framing this as a this OR that situation is incorrect. I can try to get people to use my sexuality as an insult less, AND I can fight republican bullshit too.

            • @VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world
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              Brother, sister, or other in the current context it’s a clear joke to show who is the “Dominant” and who is the “submissive”. If you understand current social dynamics, youd know that. Now we can have a conversation on if that’s appropriate considering the view is shaped by human histories use of rape as a weapon, especially when subjecting others, but that’s getting so unnecessarily deep. I can just understand this is a joke using modern social dynamics.

              Also, I’m Bi. I’ve been with two guys throughout my years. Or do I get to have another conversation on how I’m not actually gay?

    • @straightjorkin@lemmy.world
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      Rumor is that he’s doing it because he has a book tour starting tomorrow and if there’s a shut down he can’t go. Fucking cretin.

  • @pyre@lemmy.world
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    Schumer is a traitor, capitulator and collaborator.

    his response to ice literally kidnapping a man for speech was three paragraphs of “oh yeah totally fuck him hate how fucking Arab he is” before finally saying “but this might be a little bit wrong? uwu” and asking for reasons rather than fucking demanding he be released immediately.

    Chuck “blackbagging might be wrong” Schumer. between him and Amy I wonder how much worse a family can get.

    fascist collaborator piece of shit.

  • @Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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    “I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.”

    What’s his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?

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      Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.

      Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there’s extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.

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        Nothing is stopping the republicans from shutting it down themselves if it was so beneficial to Trump.

        And it’s not like they wouldn’t lie and blame it on the Democrats, so there’s minimal risk in voter agitation vs alleged reward.

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          Plus it’s a great opportunity for dozens of trolls to push a republican narrative on social media. Maybe a message to anyone left-leaning to stop voting.

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          I think mostly it is revealing about Schumer’s priorities. He has a government job. If everything within the buildings in Washington DC is mostly still working the way it’s supposed to, then at the end of the day he still gets a paycheck and some important stuff to do every day. Lots of people across the US going through upheaval, losing their jobs, maybe getting detained indefinitely or not, journalists getting threatened, all that stuff isn’t, like, good, but it’s also not an existential threat to him. The government shutting down would be.

          And so, avoiding that is a key priority of his. It’s urgent. All that other stuff is not.

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      A congressional recess during shutdown means that nobody would be left to hold Trump accountable. Except, they’re already not doing that, so…

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      It doesn’t. He is lying and he knows it. I won’t attempt to recreate his spin, because it doesn’t make any sense.

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        Congress in theory has the power to hold back, punish, or even remove the president. The government shutdown causes a congressional recess.

    • @wedge@lemmy.one
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      I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever… Its not like anyone is opposing Trump anyway so what’s the point of capitulating and preventing a govt shutdown… There is no point other than bending a fucking knee.

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      If the goverment shuts down, the buildings and agencies will be empty, because all government workers will be home. But DOGE and Musk arent government workers, and theyll have unimpeded access to EVERYTHING, with absolutely nobody to observe what they are doing.

    • @rational_lib@lemmy.world
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      It’s bullshit to cover up for the fact that his corporate donors like Blackstone can’t handle any more stock market pain.

    • @MyFriendGodzilla@lemmy.world
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      Yeah that’s my question too. Does it unlock some military related powers? Maybe if there is no gov theres no legal oversight power?

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        It doesn’t unlock anything new, it just removes the lion handler from the lion’s circus act. Although, that lion handler was a Republican majority and wasn’t doing anything anyways.

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    Perfect encapsulation of the state of the Dem leadership:

    “Chuck Schumer caving and saying he’ll vote for a blank check for Trump and Musk is demonstrative of why Democrats lose,” lamented progressive activist and writer Jonathan Cohn. “Voters so often don’t believe what they [Dem leadership] say because they don’t believe what they say.”

    (Emphasis and clarification in brackets mine)

    • @Hoomod@lemmy.world
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      Literally less than 24 hours after saying democrats wouldn’t support the CR

      Absolutely pathetic

  • @F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world
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    Big surprise, old suits in the democratic party don’t represent the modern democratic voter.

    There needs to be term limits, especially based on age, and to whipe out any form of stock trading and “donations”.

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      The reason they’re still in office is for 30 years the DNC has put protecting incumbents above all else, including beating republicans.

      The DNC power structure is pretty much the opposite of a democracy, but we just got our furtherest left chair in over 30 years, and his performance as a state party leader shows his biggest concern is beating Republicans, and he’s accomplished that to great success by just not putting the party in-between voters and the progressive candidates they want to vote for.

      It’s an incredibly low bar, but one Ken Martin easily clears.

      Don’t hate the (literally a month old) new blood for the failings of the old.

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    The entire Democratic Party leadership needs to resign and be replaced by people who will actually fight for working Americans.

    In November Schumer and the other leaders suffered the worst defeat in party history yet they haven’t realized the only thing left for them to do is resign in shame.

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      The worst defeat in party history is definitely Reagan 1984.

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        Couldn’t agree more - it will only happen if they receive enough public pressure and those of us who understand what’s happening here have a responsibility to do what we can to spread the word.

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    Call your democratic rep and demand that they insist Schumer resign.

    (202) 224-3121

    At this point, I am Not donating a single dollar more to the party. I won’t vote for a democrat at the top of the ticket and will pick a DSA candidate or green candidate. If the democrats aren’t willing to fight for democracy or strengthen it when they’re in power, I won’t reward them with votes.

    Every democrat senator needs to be primaried.

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      So we yell at someone who yells at someone who then says “No.” and then we’re back where we started.

      Plus my democratic Senator has brain damage and I have no democratic representative.

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            Thank you for demonstrating again that you really rely on strawmans! Ciao.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost
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              So when people voted for Schumer they should be happy he’s doing this?

              Please answer how this is accepted by you.

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          Ok but this isn’t what I voted for last November and I’m quickly running out of reasons to vote ever again until these dumb fucks actually do something to oppose him. Might as well let the fascists have all the seats, the Dems only apparent purpose right now is to further legitimize trumps unconstitutionality.