Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
Fuck trump. Canadians are our friends and family.
As an American, I agree with this message 100%.
Hey, Canada! Have you considered EU membership?
I don’t think Canada should fully be in the EU, but some kind of set of bilateral arrangements like Switzerland has would be a good start.
Since Canada has lots of historical ties with the UK, it might work out well to have some kind of arrangement with the UK, Canada and the EU. That would let Britain start to undo some of the damage from Brexit, while also allowing Canada to reinforce those ties to the UK.
That would actually be hilarious
And not even impossible. The EU council and commission can basically freely decide if a state counts as “European”.
I think the biggest hurdle might be that Canada would immediately be the 5th most powerful member state because of their population.
As the EU mostly does not decide population based but with equal votes per country that wouldn’t be an issue.
The larger issue is the fact that the European and US regulations clash in a lot of things so it would be harder for Canadian companies to export to the US then.
But otherwise: We would absolutely welcome you.
Canada-US trade agreements not looking so binding ATM.
If the orange turd rips it up at will, the Canadian government should too
The EU is talking to Turkey about membership (on and off…), and I would say that Canada is more European than Turkey.
Canada even shares a border with Europe, so I would say it’s close enough.
And a continental plate
Actual membership for Turkey hasn’t been a serious option for a long time. Turkey knows it, EU knows it. There simply is no other label than “candidate” that could better describe what TR means to the EU. They want to keep it as close as possible, and TR benefits from it, a lot. A symbiosis, if you will. As for the Switzerland model, the EU clearly stated, multiple times, that they don’t want to repeat the unholy mess of relations they created with CH and, in fact, would rather transform it to something in line with stock EU foreign policy.
I would honestly be stoked
We still use the u’s (colour, etc.). Is that a prerequisite?
That just shows that you did not fall into the degenerate ways of your southern neighbours.
I’m glad for it. Although the federal election is looming in the near distance. I really hope bootleg T***P (I just call him PP) doesn’t get elected.
We didn’t know we had that option. But hell yeah… what do we have to do? Make Google and Apple put a “West Europe” label over Canada?
“West West Europe”
i was wondering around Berlin once upon a time. in the park behind the parliament.
a slightly overly helpful german said “excuse me. are you lost?” i mumbled “no no, not really”
they walked beside me for a bit and said “ah you are english. i will take you to the parliament it’s just over there”. and i agreed
then they said “your boys died for my country” which really took my breath away
so yeah we got your back cananadia. that’s what we do when the fundamentalists kick off. even if we have to die
Northern Brit here: we have to have each other’s backs. The only way we’re getting off Mr Bones’ Wild Ride is together ❤️ we can do this.
Resist. Rebel. Revolt. ✊
I want to get off Mr Bones’ Wild Ride, I’m tired
I’m an American who lives in the UK and I’ll go to war for you guys before I ever go for the US military.
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From the UK and personally, 100% yes but not sure I feel the rest of the population would agree. I mean, a lot of us turned our backs on the EU and there’s a lot of cross over with US right wing nutters.
However, I would believe that when push comes to shove, we would be generally willing to defend Canada, Australia and NZ over anyone else, and then European countries at the next level. The reaction in support for Ukraine was pretty universal here and there are still lots of donations and support that is not shared with any African, Asian or Central/South American countries having similar problems.
Basically, you’re white so yes you can count on us!
Well we do have the same King as the UK does. That counts for something doesn’t it?
That’s a very good point and can’t believe I didn’t think of that! Surely the British army would have to protect “his majesty’s realm” or some bollocks like that.
I just read that Canada hosts Britain’s largest overseas base, although it seems to be for training purposes.
Hell, a lot of Americans still have your
banksbacks.I hope that is a typo.
ROFL, yes it is. But given the current state of the government here nabbing federal government budgets, it’s a hilariously ill-timed one!
Most Americans have your back too…it’s just our messed up voting and education systems that let the lunatic fringe gain all the power. For a representative democracy, it really doesn’t represent the people.
Hell yeah, im just waiting for a blue state to announce intention to secede and join the EU. But that might be messy.
;(
A messy dream.
According the most recent elections, most Americans don’t.
There has to be a point where Americans who don’t support chaos stop saying “this isn’t who we really are” and start admitting “huh, I guess we’re assholes now.”
Elections tell you, semi-accurately, what THE VOTING POPULOUS WANTED OR WAS FOOLED INTO BACKING. So you got data on less than 40% of the population and half were against this.
So, the American populace are fools. That doesn’t really help matters. This isn’t some minority thing, it’s half or nearly half of the population.
What does it really mean to have each-other’s backs?
I think one thing would be making some agreements in advance when it comes to refugees. Make it easier for Canadians to escape to the EU if the US does something stupid, and make it easier for Europeans to move to Canada if Russia does something crazy.
Other than that, I don’t know what immediate steps could really be done. I’d love it if Canada would adopt some of the European privacy regulations, ditching the American-style laws currently in effect. But, a lot of things wouldn’t be easy to change. Our cars, appliances, construction techniques, electricity voltages, plug designs, etc. are all very American-style, and those kinds of things have a lot of momentum.
But, I don’t really see a downside to making the movement of people a little easier. I think plenty of Canadians would love to live and work in Europe. I think a fair number of Europeans would love to live and work in Canada – at least once Canada finally adopts proper vacation lengths, parental leave laws, etc.
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A different electrical system would mean that all safety laws about electricity wouldn’t apply, there are probably work-arounds for that, but you’d lose the benefit of harmonized rules for hundreds of millions of people.
And while actual Canadians would like Europe’s privacy laws, the Canadian oligarchs (the Weston family, the Irvings, etc.) probably wouldn’t. Same with parental leave, vacation time, etc. And governments don’t have a good track record of listening to Canadian citizens instead of the oligarchs / business interests.
Personally, I’d love for Canada to become more European, but I know there would be a lot of resistance.
FWIW, most people in blue states would probably have your backs too. The province most at risk would probably be Alberta, which… is Alberta
France here, our mainstream media is currently either billionaire-owned and pushing Trump and Musk admiration or publicly owned but influenced by our current government (Macron and co.) which does everything possible to cosy up to billionaires so they haven’t yet (and probably never will) called Trump a fascist or Musk a neo-nazi.
You came and died in France during two world wars in the 20th century but I’m afraid France as a nation isn’t gonna have your back in this timeline - except if we manage to elect a real-left government next time.
Good luck!
Let’s see… The UK…who needed America to get involved to end WW2 and France who are literally a meme for surrendering these days (despite having the greatest military track record of any nation still standing).
I’m sure they got your back. Lol.
France is only a meme if you know nothing about history, and assuming you’re American (as if that isn’t extremely obvious) that sounds about right
What an incredibly deep ignorance about the modern world.
If you’re curious about how countries militaries actually stack up these days I’d suggest looking into the results of some of the recent NATO joint exercises. The French military is actually quite formidable with a lot of recent heavy intervention in old colonies and anti terrorism strike force actions lately… now, nothing can really compare to the insane US military budget but France is pretty fucking serious.
The UK is a joke, though.
The real sleeping bears are the Baltics though. Those fucks are scared shitless of Russia and have heavily invested in widespread training in an effort to present Russia with an occupational nightmare due to partisan resistance if they ever invade.
As a contrast while China has a shit load of stuff there was a massive amount of military supply corruption leading to a really high practical failure rate. They’ve got infantry for days of course, and their navy is quite serious… but there’s a strong suspicion that China’s airforce is much weaker than numbers would suggest.
UK and France both have nukes. They just need to let Canada borrow a few for a while if Trump starts mobilizing the US military for a special operation.
This is also kinda interesting… https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/01/28/canada-poland-nuclear-energy-cooperation-agreement
It would normally be a nothing burger… except for the timing of it. Poland and Canada both getting threatened by nuclear powers, and when Canada’s PM is on his way out and there’s a whole bunch of other shit going on he randomly finds the time to go over to Poland to make agreements on both defense and nuclear energy. Maybe nothing, but it’s a bit odd, isn’t it?
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Listen I would give Canada some nukes, but something tells me America is currently not inclined to give Canada anything lol.
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Yes thank you captain obvious. I know how mutually assured destruction works.
I am very aware that both the UK and France have nukes. The way he worded his comment I thought he was talking about America giving Canada nukes, but the UK and/or France make more sense given the hypothetical posed by the original post. I was responding to the comment while I was on the phone. Divided attention n all that.
Dont talk down to people like that. Its condescending and you have no idea how intelligent anyone actually is based off one comment. You know what they say about making assumptions.
Something something we all get some ass.
They don’t even have their own backs. Look at their military spending. It’s pretty low.
They have nukes as defence.
Nukes don’t replace boots on the ground.
Nobody cared about boots on the ground when MAD Theory kept the Cold War cold.
France here, oui bien sûr!
Viens sur notre instance française toi
Relou de recréer un compte, je ne savais pas qu’elle existait en découvrant Lemmy :(
