2 pizzas, a small order of breadsticks, and wanted to splurge and get cinnamon sticks.

Pizzas are a “Buy one get one deal!” at 13 bucks a pizza. Figured what the hell, I’ll splurge on desert then with the deal. Get to checkout… hold on a minute… 50 dollars for pizza?! Wait a minute 80 dollars after fees and taxes?!

Usually I only use Doordash for finding something, then I order direct from the store. I just saw the sweet “buy one get one” deal and thought eh, fine I’m here. Right, that’s why I stopped using door dash. I’m not spending 80 dollars on freaking pizza. I’ll just go pick it up and spend a quarter of that price.

At least I would have saved the $3 dollar delivery fee. Phew. Thanks DoorDash.

  • @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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    Stop using it. It’s that simple.

    Gig economy work is horrible for the workers, and incredibly exploitative. The workers frequently make less than minimum wage.

    I refuse to order from any restaurant that doesn’t do their own delivery. If enough other people do the same, these places will curl up and die very quickly.

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      I don’t disagree, but jobs are already hard to come by, pushing people out of the only jobs they can find is a rough solution

      • @CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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        The jobs won’t disappear. They’ll just change. The need is obviously there.

        Here in Colorado a bunch of drivers just formed a employee owned co-op, both to give the middle finger to Uber and Lyft, and so the drivers can actually earn a living. We need more of that.

        • @Rinox@feddit.it
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          A fediverse app to empower coops and smaller taxi companies and allow them to reach users could actually be a pretty good idea and a great way to reduce Uber’s power

        • @Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          This is the way. This gig worker industry is in need of disruption. It’s ultimately a matchmaking service. There is no other broker than can charge 100% markup.

          Professional job placement company, realtors, etc do more for a much smaller percentage.

        • syl
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          what’s the coop called?

    • Redex
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      I mean, it shouldn’t be that expensive. Where I live basically every pizza and fast food place used to offer free delivery. Nowadays because of delivery services this has died out a bit, but it still exits, yet ordering through the delivery services is way more expensive.

      I honestly don’t even get it, because for a long time the delivery services were operating at a loss, not even sure if most of them are in the plus even now, yet they should be more efficient than every fast food place having its own drivers.

      • Pyr
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        The pizza place has free delivery because the cost is built into the pizza and people who pick up at the store pay that even though they don’t get delivery. Using a private delivery service they charge more because they don’t get a piece of the ‘pie’ so you’re basically paying twice for delivery.

        • @TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world
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          Except there’s a local market price for that pizza. If your pizza is on par with a pizzeria two minutes away and doesn’t do free delivery, you can’t charge more. You’ll lose all your pickups to them.

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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        I use delivery services because restaurants have terrible phone service. It’s always their cousin Mumbles who answers the phone, surrounded by people banging on pots and pans. He doesn’t read my order back to me to make sure it’s correct. He doesn’t tell me how much it’s going to be. He doesn’t tell me how long it’s going to take. So I have no idea if I’m going to get the right food, if it will be the right temperature, and if I have enough cash to pay the driver.

        And there’s no way I’m going to give out my credit card info to some guy I don’t know.

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          I don’t order delivery, but I do order pickup, and I like when restaurants have online ordering using the same system they use in the restaurant. It’s common with restaurants that use modern PoS systems like Toasttab. Prices are the same as if you order in person, since they don’t have to also pay another third-party (DoorDash, etc).

    • @But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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      “Oh shit I forgot my passport at home and my flight leaves in an hour!” “I’ll uber it over!”

      Is the only time I’ve used Uber and felt like it as worth it and necessary, not for food. Just bite the bullet and eat crackers and ramen for the night or walk to a nearby place

    • @Darkhoof@lemmy.world
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      I will always get a good laugh of corporate bootlickers that can’t distinguish expensive from robbery.

    • Luffy
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      2 pizzas from lieferando in my country cost 30€

      They too are a private Courier.

      • Björn Tantau
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        Actually no. Lieferando just offers digital menus and orders. The drivers themselves are employed by the restaurants. And the Lieferando fees are hidden (paid by the restaurants).

        Luckily my favourite pizza place now has their own website that works better than Lieferando’s and all the proceeds go to them.

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          It might be the case that restaurants have their own drivers, but Liefefando has drivers too.

          See for example this Add (in German) looking for drivers

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          And the Lieferando fees are hidden (paid by the restaurants).

          Restaurants pay DoorDash, Uber Eats, etc. too - it costs them 30% of the order price. So the restaurant pays a lot, and the customer also pays a lot. I don’t understand how people are comfortable with this business model.

    • @Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      If you can make multiple deliveries each trip then home delivery could be more efficient, but it’s hard to see how it could be cheaper than picking the meal up yourself.

      • @Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world
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        When I delivered pizza and BBQ(different places) that’s what we did. Load up 2-4 orders and delivery range was like 15 miles. The pizza place was always busy but the BBQ only did delivery during lunch and dinner. Now you can order a coffee from Pete’s 20 miles away at 7am. Some things don’t make sense to deliver and no one wins.

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      Part of that fee is the “Seattle drivers fee”, which is supposed to go to the drivers, but they’ve been very shady about that, and the tipping algorithm was not adjusted at all when they rolled it out. They were also really shitty at the time blaming greedy drivers and the mean old city for forcing them to pay their drivers… and that’s when I stopped using them for good.

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    You know, for 26 bucks a delivery, why the hell isnt there local competition?

    • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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      Probably because the real trick is getting recognition. In the fog of a million voices on the internet all vying for your attention it is hard to make yourself a brand name. When people think of delivery now they automatically think of doordash.

    • @shortrounddev@lemmy.world
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      Network effect. People want to order online, and they don’t want to have to create a new account to do so. Doordash already exists, so it’s easy to go to the app to find food, rather than looking up your favorite pizza place and signing up through whatever weird 3rd party payment system they use

  • @DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, every time I think about getting Doordash, they sucker me in with promises of $1 delivery fees, etc. Then I take the time to find out what I want, put it in my cart, get excited, and…then I see the final price.

    That’s when I close out of my browser and go preheat my oven so that I can put in a frozen pizza.

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      We created a rule, if you want to eat out, you have to be willing to get up and go get it. If you’re not willing to do that, you obviously don’t want it that badly and you can make something at home or do something else. It’s saved me probably thousands of dollars now. However DD is great at showing me what restaurants are around me, I just have to weed out the fake ones. Google has gotten worse and worse about showing me the small places around me.

  • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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    I don’t understand how all of these delivery services are so popular when everyone is saying how high the cost of living is. People have money to blow on delivery fees?

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      Most of the people that I know that make decent money don’t use the service, but the people that work at restaurants or do gig work occasionally do… I don’t understand

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      Yes. Those people consider things like this part of the “cost of living”, not the luxury that it is.

      On average, people have more of an issue overspending than they do underearning. That’s why even among people making six figures, 1 in 4 of them live “paycheck to paycheck”, which people assume to mean ‘barely make enough to make ends meet’, but what more commonly means ‘deliberately chooses not to save/spends every dollar earned’.

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      FWIW my teen does. For him it’s a combination of things not available on campus and he’s always sent money as soon as he gets it. But he doesn’t have any expenses so …

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      Easy really. The shop has one parking space which is occupied by their delivery driver. The next nearest parking space is half a mile away through a dark alley and you have to pay, but it takes so long to pay that you get fined. The shop itself is freezing because the door doesn’t shut properly. It’s also a ten mile drive away, down wide fast roads, or at least roads that would be fast if they weren’t infested by ridiculously low average speed cameras which mean you have to crawl all the way there and back or risk getting fined again. Then when you get home you discover you’ve been fined for the last time you parked somewhere and overstayed by a whole nanosecond.

      That’s how it is in the UK anyway. And politicians wonder why town centres are dying.

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        It is your opinion town centres are dying from not enough parking space?

        This used to be the mainstream opinion back in the sixties, but nowadays basically any “revitalisation” programme will be removing asphalt, because small business health has been shown to be correlated with how well connected the area is to public transport, and how pleasant it is to loiter in.

  • @WhyFlip@lemmy.world
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    Dweebs can’t leave their bubble to actually go pick it up. Fuck these crazy food delivery fees. Fuck the dweebs .

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    Does this pizza place not have their own drivers? If they do you’re already paying at least 30% more because of the DoorDash surcharge. Also, judging by the dashers who pick up from where I work, there’s a 60% chance they don’t have an insulated bag and you’re getting cold food.

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      I don’t mind driving, and I’m such a weirdo about paying/tipping when I can do something myself. I can probably count on one hand how many times I’ve had food delivered in the last decade

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      People that just pay and don’t pay attention

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        They really do hide the final price until the last second when you’re most committed. They’re banking on your hunger, seeing everything in your cart, and either being so excited you’ll just click the buttons to make food come, or you’ll justify it away.

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          They really do hide the final price until the last second when you’re most committed.

          This was going to be made illegal in California, but restaurants got an exception added to the law at the last minute. It’s illegal in other industries now though - for example, Ticketmaster’s listed/advertised prices in California have to include all fees.

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      People with more money than sense lol, there’s never really a great reason to get Doordash or Uber Eats

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      There’s a $10 monthly subscription to remove delivery fees and most of the “service fee”, which is much cheaper than paying “full” price on just one order, so tricks people into thinking they’re saving money by subscribing.

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    Seeing things like this make me happy that I

    • live in a state that banned junk fees.
    • live just far enough outside of a metro area that these services don’t deliver to me so I don’t have to worry about being tempted to order from them.
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    You did it! No delivery fee! You’re so lucky!

    Oh hey… Unrelated, but let me get $20 in “fees” please.

    Really though, congrats on that delivery discount though, you’re really coming out in top, putting me through the ringer, bud!

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    My sister uses doordash and there’s always something wrong. Yet she insists on trying again and again, and I can’t understand why.

    I have never used them or Uber or others like this, and refuse to do so. They exploit their workers, they charge exorbitant fees, and when something’s wrong, it’s nobody’s fault.

    If I want food, I go get it myself. I’m my own delivery boy! And contrary to a lot of people delivering food, I will not park on a sidewalk or in a bike lane.

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      The one thing I will say positively about DoorDash is that when something is wrong with the order, it is really easy to report it and receive fair credit in the app instantly.

      I’ve been trying to order directly more often, to avoid fees and tips, and if something is wrong it’s almost always a hassle to get any kind of credit without going back to the store in person. I barely want to go in the first place, so having to go back just to get $3 doesn’t really make sense.

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        That’s their model, they make everything easy and take the loss. But after everyone started using them, they can do whatever they want.

        I remember 10 years ago a collegue is telling me that that Amazon was great. You order something, it arrives and if there is an issue with the order, you can order a replacement by yourself and it will arrive before even you returned the first item. Few weeks ago I had an issue with an order and you need to contact the customer service for a solution. Chat was not working, you can request a call back but it wasn’t working either, they give you a number to call but it isn’t working. 4 years ago it was much easier to contact them.

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          Agreed. At some point in your life, time becomes the biggest luxury, so I very much prefer spending a couple of extra bucks on higher quality stuff to the hassle of returning cheaply made junk.