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Who here is going to put their ID and photo on X/Twitter
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Nobody, absolutely nobody should trust that idiot with your ID.
If you always wanted to leak your ID to a bunch of hackers thanks to poor security practices, this is a great opportunity for you to do so
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then is trying to lose as little money as possible from this ordeal
Bro he could have just bought it and done nothing and he would have been better off. I don’t have the same read that you do. My read is that he had specific strategic political interests in buying it and the money/ value/ revenue shit is secondary.
He was actually forced to buy it after suggesting it
But the point remains that doing nothing would have brought more value so I agree that he isn’t trying to recoup lost money here
Yeah he probably is just playing with his new toy
Nothing the credit agencies don’t already leak every year or two…
or everyone could recognize that he is far more malevolent toward you than any hacker could possibly be, but yeah, they definitely have no security that worries about YOUR data
It’s not about trusting some idiot. It’s about attaching your identity to your activities online. I remember when these websites used to advise against doxing yourself.
Then swatting opponents will be much easier
I mean this whole process is explicitly for the purpose of attaching your identity to your online activities. If you don’t want to do it, just don’t.
I shudder to think of what will happen when hackers inevitably get into Twitter servers and steal all those IDs though…
Yeah. I’d rather hand it over to the weird guy at the bus stop. At least he’s not a billionaire douche bag.
It feels like even random software crackers are safer than Elon
Meth addicted inbred sociopathic hamster human hybrids are safer than Elon.
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Guessing, millions of people will feel obligated to share their ID. Not everyone can be saved
Ironically, it’s going to be a bunch of “libertarian” tech bros who use crypto for “privacy” who will be the first to give Musk (and by proxy every world government) their ID.
Probably most monero users dont use kyc exchanges so i dont think they will use kyc twitter let alone the first ones. This may kill twitter, but there is lots of stupid out there like those crypto and bitcoin users lol so you never know.
Shouldn’t trust Twitter users either, they’ll take an out of context joke you made back in 2011 and ruin your life over it.
Honestly, just fuck talking to people online. Literal no good will ever come of it. I’m just gonna stop communicating with people.
This shit is so dumb, no upside, only downsides
Ackshually, it’s upvotes and downvotes ☝️🤓
bruh lololol
Many will just go along with this bollocks…🤦🏻♂️
Very interested to see how the “small government” crowd deals with this.
Didn’t voat or truth social or something require IDs and the idiots all flocked to it?
Dunno about the others, but I specifically remember Parler required users to attach their IDs to their profiles if they wanted to be verified.
I think that was Parler for the whole 3 mooches it was a thing.
Glad mooch remains a unit of measurement.
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As one of the “small government” crowd I’m not trusting that douchebag with my information.
He’s gonna dox all the liberals/lefties. Wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t the original plan.
And journalists if they report on him negatively, or oppose his Russian “peace” talk suggestions, even if it puts their career in danger where they live. Peak freedom of speech absolutism!
Instructions unclear. Uploaded my social security card and DNA samples.
I would trust pornhub with my ID more than I’d trust that asshat with it.
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Twitter aside, if any website or app ever asks this of you, please nope the fuck out.
I guess it only occasionally makes sense for government web sites and banks. X might have ambitions to become a bank, so in that sense it might make sense.
So another piece of advice: if twitter ever asks you if you want to start using it for banking, nope the fuck out.
You Americans should get to this century and start performing digital strong authentications like the rest of us. Sending picture of your ID to anyone is insane :)
How we do it here in Finland is that there are digital identity providers which use bank/mobile carrier to identify you. They then use MFA when identifying you. Any service can use these services to do strong authentication for you. And they don’t cost anything for the customer, and is really cheap for the company who wants to identify you. It is also build into the law that you must identify people using these, to avoid identity theft.
We’re still trying to decide if slavery was wrong give us some time
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Half our country thinks that would be the mark of the Beast or some shit.
How doss your bank identify you?
When you walk in, the guy goes “hey Sam! I tupped your mom the other night.”
By the card they issued me when I opened the account.
But how did they authenticate your identity when you opened the account? I’d not trying to be an arse - but at some point it will likely have come back to matching some official photo id against your face.
They once identify you from your driver’s license, government id card or passport. After that you for example link your smart phone to you, and you use their app when you identify.
You can also use mobile carriers, they send a push notification directly to you phone+sim. Not sure what protocol they use here, because it opens up an UI which is plain android, and asks pin.
Everything relays on chain of trust that since one service has identified you, the next can trust too. Plus there is MFA to verify that you actually made the identification request.
The initial argument was ‘sending is to anyone is insane’ but that’s what you do with the bank. Yes it’s only once - but that’s the same as the other systems we are taking about here.
We have that
Idk, I’ve got my hands in a lot of financial cookie jars, and I don’t recall ever being asked for something like this. At the very least, not in this manner.
It’s pretty standard for European banks thanks to Know Your Customer laws.
If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes. I would never give that information directly to a company like X. And yes, also those special companies are more times shady than they should be, but still.
Call it Twitter please
If you keep in mind that it’s only done with special certified subcontractors, then yes.
Dunno what you’re talking about here but I’ve had to go through something similar every time I’ve opened a new account with a financial service.
But yeah, I would not trust Twitter/X either. Musk is too much of an emotional child following whatever whim takes his fancy that day.
I know there’s a similar-ish process for accessing Spanish social security services online at least, and I believe it’s the same for some other services as well.
Then again, Spanish public services are not exactly the gold standard for digitalization.
Wait are you Spanish too? Those websites look like they’ve been made by a secretary’s cousin that only knew how to copy and paste in the 90s
I just have a few Spanish friends! And from what they’re telling me that’s probably exactly how these websites were made.
I mean, most public computers are very old too. Like 20 years old at leat
I have the opposite experience but maybe it’s just different in the EU
He’s definitely pushing for Twitter to be the next WeChat.
Can’t wait for the social credit system
To follow his dystopian vision of Twitter as the Everything app, in the US it will have to be a bank at some point. The same way that Apple is now a bank in order to power parts of their wallet and payment platforms.
Yeah, PayPal sure as fuck ain’t a bank. And the same douche started that.
Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and Luke Nosek started Twitter?
The only government function that has ever wanted a “selfie” was for my drivers license and passport. Both of which feature that picture. But I’ve never done either through a site.
It’s stupid as well, because it’s impossible to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. You can just photoshop something and send that in.
incorrect. it is actually fairly easy to authenticate an id or passport from a photo. Photoshopping something is easily spotted by a trained eye. Source i work as a document expert for an online ID verification company. the amount of fakes we spot each day are fairly large and its not all automatically processed. Also for those people that don’t know where there data is proccesed. there are actually a lot of laws in place to protect your data for example for EU citizens
Outside of services where you need to access it (ex. school / exams / government services), one beneficial one might be dating apps. There’s an advantage to being verified.
Although none of them ask for ID from what I understand, just “hold up 3 fingers and take a touch your nose” or something…
Then nope the fuck out of Hetzner then. They asked that of me.
Strange, I don’t remember them asking me that.
YouTube does this sadly.
Seriously???
Only if you want to watch adult-themed videos, which they have been more lenient towards after the introduction of YouTube Kids and this measure. NewPipe and
yt-dlpcan still stream them, though, and you could also interact with the video (like, comment, save to playlists) using the official frontend last time I checked.More lenient?!
I like to watch people playing Hearts of Iron 4 (a WW2 strategy game) and most of the creators avoid saying “Hitler” to avoid getting demonetized and hit with an age check.
It’s getting a lot worse.
This.👆
Now imagine if all websites did
Yep. Fuck you airbnb!
PayPal did and I need this service for almost any online purchase. Credit card is uncommon here and expensive. :/
Don’t do this. Delete your Xitter account and use Mastodon instead.
Xitter
In my head that’s pronounced “shitter”
That is indeed my intent.
I’m seeing equal parts shitter and exiter.
Man I never had a Twitter account to begin with, lol. Any Internet site that wants my ID can eat a dick instead because I will straight-up close that tab and 360 moonwalk right out the door.
- While “Safety Dance” plays faintly in the background.
This is the right answer.
Xitler?
I got a mastodon, but there’s nothing there.
Do you mean nothing as in your feed has barely any posts? Or nothing as is there’s no one interesting to follow?
Give it time. With both Xitter and reddit trying to kill themselves, and Threads dead on arrival, adoption of both Lemmy and Mastodon is going up.
90s: stay anonymous, be careful with strangers, don’t give up any more info than you have to. The internet can be a dangerous place. Also, supervise your kids and have them ask permission to go online.
2010s-2020s: livestream your life 24/7, use real names and emails everywhere when signing up for bullshit, hand your kid a phone and let them go buck wild as well.
How did we stray like this?
It’s also ironic that the same generation of parents telling us to be careful online and “don’t believe everything you see on TV” are the same ones that get their news from grifter pundits and divisive facebook memes generated by Russian bot farms.
It’s remarkable isn’t it? Now we’re the ones telling our parents to turn off the TV and get off the internet or it’ll rot their brains.
growing up these days includes realizing your parents are shameful hypocrites who are knowingly destroying the world
The funny thing is that you probably think you get news legitimately.
But the truth is that it’s all propaganda. The only difference between CNN and Fox, or reddit/Twitter/Facebook, is the angle.
But it’s all bullshit.
‘News’ doesn’t exist anymore, instead of just giving the facts, every article tries to tell you what you should think.
Oh, is this the fabled “bOtH sIdEs” argument?
Boomers love to give advice and they hate to follow it—even their own!
People got mad when they didn’t know who insulted them online
I still sign up for websites with the following credentials:
Joe Blow 6969 Penetration Ave Beverly Hills, California 90210
governments and politicians got their hands on it
I miss the 90’s, a better time for sure.
Feels quite dystopian at the moment.
There is absolutely 0 chance I’m sending any documents to the clown in chief
Don’t worry… they are probably going to a “trusted” 3rd party service ;-)
It’s right in the fine print. “Au10tix”, lmao.
Of course there’s an X in the name
elons going to be running X like the hudson construction company
Identity theft as a service… IDaS?
Do we pronounce it Eye-Dass, or can we get away with ID-Ass here ;-)
The chief twit.
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
can i just draw an ID in crayon and send in a selfie of me wearing my sick shades and an N95 mask?
But what about Elon?
There is absolutely 0 chance I’m sending any documents to the clown in chief
a clown has to make people laugh. it’s a tough job.
imagine elonMusk trying to please people!
Man, Elon’s got one hell of a boner for WeChat, huh? I honestly feel embarassed for him. WeChat is WeChat because it’s Chinese – there is no secret formula for Elon to steal. The circumstances which created WeChat simply do not exist in the west and IMO it should stay that way.
Tbf, I think he has wanted to have an everything app going back to his PayPal days. I still think it’s a stupid idea for the American market.
There’s an entire plotline in Startup where the main character is desperately trying to create an everything app after seeing someone in an Asian country with 1 app on their phone.
Spoiler alert - most of the development staff ends up quitting and it bombs on launch because nobody in the West is remotely interested in an “everything” app.
It exists. It’s called android! Honestly though, that’s why Google developed it. They wanted to maintain control and stay as the primary Internet portal for mobile users. Banking, messaging, gaming and productivity all passes through them.
We chat has similar in China but only because competitors were stifled. It won’t work in the west as competition for any aspect will be better for some people and anticompetitive behavior will be clamped down on even if it started to work.
Maybe not messaging 😂
You mean all the messaging?
isn’t weChat an app on android?
how does this comparison work?
It’s not the same. It’s Elon thinking it can be with an app, but it can’t. It’s google realising over 10 years ago that to have that level of control in the western markets, you need to have an entire platform, not an app. Elon can’t even get Twitter to do one thing well, let alone all the things.
Nobody noticed “Be prepared to take a sefie” !?
I can guarantee that this was pushed out the door without any actual forethought or planning. Because Elon probably decreed that it had to be done now, so the devs were forced to push to prod without any actual testing ahead of time.
i can’t think of a better way to handle the rollout of a new identity verification system
Camera must be uncovered.
not my frist language, what’s wrong with it?
Just a typo, should be “selfie”. Indicates poor quality control.
I, for one, want to thank Elon Musk for graciously backing up my highly sensitive government ID (that has my birthdate, eye color, height, weight), my biometric data, and likeness! It is such a nice thing to centralize all my most sensitive data into one giant honeypot waiting to meltdown. It is made even more appealing after he fired the entire staff responsible for maintaining this honeypot!
Over/under before data breach and this all gets leaked?
Considering all the past, current, and future disgruntled employees - I wouldn’t be shocked at all by an insider leaking stuff like this. The company is unstable like its leadership - which isn’t very trust-inspiring.
Well, that’s a possibility too, but I was expecting that they just lose the data through over-work or negligence. Remember, this is the company that DDOS’d itself a month or two ago and had to be told about it on twitter…
Looking forward to the inevitable massive data breach.
Providing this info in the first place is the data breach… 🥴
it’s not a matter of if, but a matter of when.
Why would anybody do this?
That’s literally what I thought about installing Chrome and sharing my browsing history with Google. Why would I get a Facebook account and share my name, my face and my daily activities with the entire world. I thought that this is just pure insanity, and nobody will ever go along with this level of stupidity. Oh, boy was I in for a surprise.
Look who is laughing now that Chrome is the number one browser and many websites are only tested on Chrome. FB has so many users that people think it’s really odd that I’m not there with everyone else.
I don’t know why you’re being down voted. You’re making a fair comparison.
I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. Many people don’t understand computers or web browsers. They think they’re safe because they come from big companies and they don’t think those companies are stealing their data. After all, they didn’t enter in any personal info when they installed Chrome.
Sending Twitter your ID is a whole other level. That involves you actively surrendering your personal information.
Expecting people to see both the same way doesn’t make sense to me at all.
Giving your ID to Twitter is indeed on a whole different level. I would never do it, and a lot of people here seem to agree with me.
However, in my previous example I’m pointing out that there are a surprising number of people who don’t see it that way. Just because you and I would never do it, doesn’t mean much. There are always people who just don’t care about privacy or security.
Maybe they don’t know much, or understand what they’re doing, or maybe the social pressure is so great that they feel like they have to get an account. Either way, I would argue that the number of those people is disappointingly high.
Ah yes, just take a photo of your id. Surely X can be trusted, right… right guys?
Sure it can. Just wait 'til it also becomes your banking app, keeping your money totally safe, then you’ll be able to double trust it. Would space karen x ever lie to anyone? /s
Of course she wouldn’t lie to anyone. Just wait 'til your totally safely kept money becomes programmable by central banks, regulating where you can spend it, when you can spend it, what you can spend it on, and builds a neat profile of yourself linking every single activity you do, online and offline. We wouldn’t want any terrorists or bad citizens to be out there now, would we? /s
If they ever have a data breach I’m sure they’ll totally do right by the consumer also 🙄
Wouldn’t trust this clown with my digital words, let alone a copy of my actual ID
I’m sure they would offer 6 months of free credit screening as a consolation like all the other companies do. Just enter your social security number so they know what to look out for.
Ha ha ha ha ha… No.
I read that in Alex Trebek’s voice.
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it won’t be mandatory, unfortunately. Would’ve loved to see another fediverse mass migration
The eternal september moment for the fediverse is very much coming
the ongoing July
Lemmy isn’t the only fediverse platform, Mastodon is growing rapidly as well
What makes you think we’re not already there?
Once prominent celebrities and more news agencies start to come (and they will, the BBC is a sign of that) the culture will shift faster than you really realize. There is still an insular culture around the fediverse that tends to be a big barrier around entry for “normies” right now. Going on a mastodon instance as a new user with limited technical knowledge can be quite jarring especially if you step out of line of what it seen as culturally fitting for the fediverse
It’s very much a nerd/geek environment at the moment. There isn’t much for normies to look at…yet.
God, imagine the reaction when it’s Facebook refugees coming and not Redditors
This is pretty much the prospect of a former Reddit user like myself. I was there for eight years and stepping away from the bubble has not been easy for me. Not great at swiftly navigating the internet. I was used to having been served a whole cake and now I scramble for crumbs. I won’t go back because Reddit was built on the backs of free labor. Due to gilded cage syndrome, Ive bounced from Mastodon to Tildes and now Lemmy.
interesting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
Fuck. I was hoping Elon had a meltdown and made it mandatory.
Not that Elon having some of your more pedigree info could possibly ever go wrong!
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Elon has the vibe of someone who likes low budget TV shows now that you mention it.
Hey there’s nothing wrong with low budget tv shows! You can’t take my early seasons of Stargate SG-1 from me like that
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It was so difficult to use for a long time, I only ever used it for breaking news. Then I finally found internet creators I liked enough to follow, maybe a few joke accounts. That only lasted for maybe a year and then Elon took over and it’s not worth downloading the app for anymore. Way too many right-wing conspiracy guys now.
