The funny thing is that the “extra strength” placebos likely have a better chance of working. The more elaborate and involved the placebo is, the greater the chance of it actually working even if you know it is a placebo. Our minds are weird. As always, I’m too lazy to look up the actual study so I don’t know if it was a quality study or not.
The important thing is that you believe there was a study ;p
Yeah, I haven’t read the study of course. Only read about it. Which makes the claim above even more dubious. But hey, this is the future, who has the time to fact check anymore?
If you only read about it that gives it 50% chance at best at being true. Luckily I also read about it, so together that makes it 100% true.
Math checks out.
You could ask an AI, maybe they’ll invent a source for you
Somebody from Behavioural Economics has actually shown a nocebo effect for something with genuine positive health effects when people tought it was an ultra cheap version.
The story of that is in one of the Freakonomics books.
But you also might get more nocebos where you get negative effects from the placebo
Trick yourself better you rube.
Gaslight yourself to health
This reminded me of an episode of Mind Field, which shows significant improvent in cases of ADHD, Migraines, and a skin picking disorder in kids just through the placebo effect.
They use elaborate set ups and suggestions like a turned off MRI machine, fake nurses and doctors in lab coats, etc. And the kids are actually told, that it’s their brain doing the healing, not the machine.
Yeah, I heard that the placebo effect for pain meds is stronger in the US (than in Europe?) because there’s more advertisment for it in the US (how they made sure this is causation and not correlation I have no idea, though …)
I believe it’s red placebos that are better at helping with pain.
The brain is a fucky old thing.
It’s been a while since I looked at this, but different color pills “work” better for different ailments. Also the size and numbers of pills effect results as well. Two pills are “stronger” than one, bigger pills over smaller as well.
I only use brand name placebos. Generic doesn’t work for me.
I find you have to use twice as much to have any effect.
People wanna tell me there’s no such thing as magic in a world where The Placebo Effect exists. Bro’s got a low level healing spell that grows stronger the more he believes it works.
Also money. It only works if you believe in it, yet it controls all of society
they work even when you know they’re placebos. now that’s magic.
If it works. I do not care how.
I agree. However, to me, something feels wrong about companies making money selling a product to people with the promise that they work when they don’t actually do anything in and of themselves. It’s false advertising plus taking money out of people’s pockets.
IIRC, studies have also shown that the cost of the placebo had a direct correlation to the efficacy. Ah yes: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4345649/
Conclusion:
Expensive placebo significantly improved motor function and decreased brain activation in a direction and magnitude comparable to, albeit less than, levodopa. Perceptions of cost are capable of altering the placebo response in clinical studies.
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Oh my gosh. My brain is so stupid, is the author of this message.
It’s not stupid if it works
But be careful with the dose
Take too much of a placebo and you might end up with a nocebo side-effect.
Just pretend you took an ephemeral pill. Placebos work like that too.
I just go with whatever’s on sale.
For me, it’s whatever is in the biggest bottle.
Sometimes the shiniest, too!
Old-timey labels appeal to me
What if the pharmacy has, like, a whole vat of them?
I only use homeopathic placebos.
Ah, Zicam. I’ll never understand how shit like that is allowed to make claims
Placebo is one of the most underrated bands.
Its a multibillion dollar industry
Brand Named Extra Strength!
I’m getting fucked up on cough medicine tonight. I’ve got this homeopathic stuff that I hear is insane.
Should have seen this coming, but still laughed out loud when it came up.
This is very true after learning about guaifenesin, phenylephrine, and Docusate Sodium.
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Nani the fuck
Fuck, the spambots found lemmy.
Haha, can’t look away for a few hours. >:(
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Very relevant and pretty recent SciShow episode:
