• @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    1188 months ago

    It’s like people really believe America entered WW2 to fight fascism becaus Americans are innately good…

    Large amounts of the country said the same shit this guy is. They wanted to either stay out of it or outright join the nazis.

    Especially the wealthy. Prescott Bush was believed to be part of the Business Plot that wanted to overthrow the US government in favor of fascism and doing the Axis powers.

    They didn’t succeed (mostly because of Pearl Harbor) but his son became head of the CIA, VP, and then president. One of his sons also became president, and almost another one.

    If we don’t remember what history was really like, we’re doomed to keep being surprised when the same shit keeps happening.

    • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Ya, CCCP started it all with Hitler, later on the USA was forced in to the war.

      Don’t forget.

      Edit, to clarify: the USA was forced into the war, later on, they didn’t enter voluntarily. The nazis and the soviets kicked off ww2 in 1939. Sorry for the confusion.

      Edit again:

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        248 months ago

        Ya, CCCP started it all with Hitler

        Whut?

        Is this an attempt at a joke or do you really believe that?

        It’s hard to tell these days when someone is just pretending

            • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              I didn’t say it brought USA into the war, I said it was what kicked off ww2 and it was the fault of the soviets + nazi germany.

              You are correct, but you misunderstood me, or I wasn’t clear enough.

              Edit: I was not clear enough, I edited my post. In my mind the two things were separate, I just didn’t have the writing skills.

          • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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            28 months ago

            No. I mean, congrats on the mental gymnastics needed to somehow blame it on communists, but no.

            • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              So splitting up poland and the baltics wasn’t what started ww2?

              Let’s hear your version.

              • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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                18 months ago

                Are you familiar with the concept of a casus belli or are you just cognitively impaired?

                • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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                  28 months ago

                  So it’s time for insults.

                  Yeah the great Soviet Union started off WW2 with Nazi Germany, like it or not. I know they don’t teach that in some countries and call it “the great patriotic war” instead. Yo know, to muddy the waters.

                  • 100_kg_90_de_belin
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                    28 months ago

                    No insult needed, but talking to you feels like watching a fish try to climb a tree. The only thing that’s muddy is your understanding of history. Hopefully, you’ll get better at it after a few months in a laojiao camp.