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@gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish •
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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now

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Considering last night's results, I don't expect NATO to be credible 4 years from now

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@gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.worldEnglish •
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    11•8 months ago

    It isn’t credible now. It likely won’t exist at all in 4 years. Unless it cedes even more decision making authority to the US and becomes even more of a puppet.

    • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      The main point I was making is that Trump is almost certainly going to pull the US out of NATO altogether.

      • @RangerJosie@lemmy.world
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        5•8 months ago

        If not attempt to destroy it outright in an attempt to extort it.

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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          Only if he gets attention or money for doing so. Those are his two gods, and he serves no others.

          • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksOP
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            5•8 months ago

            Well don’t forget Putin

            • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet
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              He serves Putin because Putin gives him attention and money. It’s the same gods.

              • @gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksOP
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                Putin also kinda obviously has some serious dirt on him

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                  What dirt could he possibly have that the MAGA crowd gives two shits about?

                  • @iwndwyt@sh.itjust.works
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                    I doubt there’s anything that will sway them. My guess is he’s in massive financial debt to the Russian mafia or directly to Putin. He’s afraid of being suicided out a window defenestration style.

    • @tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Doesn’t all authority already lie with the USA? If we’re going to be real, I mean. I’m sure France thinks otherwise but let’s be real: NATO was always the “Uncle Sam will protect Europe from Russia”-treaty.

      • @Miaou@jlai.lu
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        France knows this, that’s why it wasn’t in NATO for most its history. This only changed when one of our president needed war crime buddies

        • @Estiar@sh.itjust.works
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          C’est faux. France is one of the founding members of NATO, however for much of the time it was under a French Command instead of a combined command.

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