I agree that we need regulation. But I think you also discount the effects of individual consumption.
In the long-ish term, the animal farming indistry has to go. It cannot be made sustainable, no matter how you regulate industry. It’s just a waste of resources. So at some point you as an individual have to adapt to a vegan diet, either by choice or because there is no alternative. What will it be? Do you want to stop eating meat the moment it is outlawed?
People who cling to eating meat nowadays actively oppose regulation. Otherwise they couln’t eat meat. There is still a demand. We need both regulation to end animal farming and convince individual consumers, that they have to become vegans. It’s the masses who have the most power. If veganism came from the majority population, it would be far easier to regulate industry.
I just want to be clear what your position is. You’re not just encouraging veganism, you’re calling on the violence of the police to beat and imprison people who eat meat.
I’m not necessarily arguing against it, I just want the clarity that you finally provided.
It’s easy to suggest outlawing stuff without considering the violence necessary for outlawing things. You have clearly considered (and enthusiastically endorse) that violence.
Of course if you imprison all meat eaters but still use oil to harvest, process, and distribute all the plant based foods then the world will still burn, but that’s beyond the scope of this particular issue.
So at some point you as an individual have to adapt to a vegan diet, either by choice or because there is no alternative.
Do you want to stop eating meat the moment it is outlawed?
We need both regulation to end animal farming and convince individual consumers, that they have to become vegans
If they want “regulations” to “end” animal farming then I just want to be clear that they support imprisoning people who prepare or eat meat. They went to the extreme of jail without mentioning the word jail.
No, I don’t support jail for anyone, because it’s a bad way to solve crime. I think anyone who eats meat should be sentenced to something productive like community service, or therapy to get to the bottom of why they think they have the right to kill others.
Well then under communism, you wouldn’t be invited to any of the cool parties, and you’d be refused service at most non-essential places like restaurants and gyms. People would think you’re a weirdo.
I agree that we need regulation. But I think you also discount the effects of individual consumption.
In the long-ish term, the animal farming indistry has to go. It cannot be made sustainable, no matter how you regulate industry. It’s just a waste of resources. So at some point you as an individual have to adapt to a vegan diet, either by choice or because there is no alternative. What will it be? Do you want to stop eating meat the moment it is outlawed?
People who cling to eating meat nowadays actively oppose regulation. Otherwise they couln’t eat meat. There is still a demand. We need both regulation to end animal farming and convince individual consumers, that they have to become vegans. It’s the masses who have the most power. If veganism came from the majority population, it would be far easier to regulate industry.
Would you support enforced veganism, and jailing anybody who eats or prepares meat?
Would you destroy the world for taste? I don’t get where your question is coming from
I just want to be clear what your position is. You’re not just encouraging veganism, you’re calling on the violence of the police to beat and imprison people who eat meat.
I’m not necessarily arguing against it, I just want the clarity that you finally provided.
It’s easy to suggest outlawing stuff without considering the violence necessary for outlawing things. You have clearly considered (and enthusiastically endorse) that violence.
Of course if you imprison all meat eaters but still use oil to harvest, process, and distribute all the plant based foods then the world will still burn, but that’s beyond the scope of this particular issue.
Congratulations, you perfected strawmanning. I have no idea who you are replying to. There is nothing in there that I wrote.
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Why does everything have to go to the extreme end of straight to jail?
The post to which I replied said:
If they want “regulations” to “end” animal farming then I just want to be clear that they support imprisoning people who prepare or eat meat. They went to the extreme of jail without mentioning the word jail.
Mate, it’s illegal for teenagers to buy R rated movies and I’ve never heard of anyone going to jail for it. Why can’t meat be like that?
No, I don’t support jail for anyone, because it’s a bad way to solve crime. I think anyone who eats meat should be sentenced to something productive like community service, or therapy to get to the bottom of why they think they have the right to kill others.
I would refuse that community service and therapy. What would happen then?
Well then under communism, you wouldn’t be invited to any of the cool parties, and you’d be refused service at most non-essential places like restaurants and gyms. People would think you’re a weirdo.