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@fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish • 1 year ago

ah, conservation

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ah, conservation

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  • @ryannathans@aussie.zone
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    39•1 year ago

    To be fair that’s a very important part

    • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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      23•1 year ago

      Up until people start asking how you tell the endangered owls from the invasive owls while holding two dead owls

      • @ryannathans@aussie.zone
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        30•1 year ago

        Rule one of hunting is to identify your target

        At least statistically if you shot a bunch of random owls you’re most likely to have shot all invasive owls…

        • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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          7•1 year ago

          If there’s one thing I know about the hunting community, it’s how much they love rules

      • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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        15•1 year ago

        I don’t know what you think hunters are doing, just casually shooting every flying thing lol

        • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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          3•1 year ago

          Uh huh. Hey, how do you easily tell the difference between the two species?

          Off the top of your head.

          • @healthetank@lemmy.ca
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            11•1 year ago

            People who go hunting don’t go by “off the top of their head”.

            Now I can’t speak to the laws in California for hunting, but in Canada they have pretty crazy strict laws regarding illegal hunting, including seizure of anything used in the act (trucks, atvs, guns, boats, etc), removal of gun license, and huge fines.

            A quick google search shows the method they’ve used, and have been using for the last decade as an attempt to stop the spread: Barred owls are much more aggressive, and playing their calls can lure them in to fight, in a way the spotted owls don’t, so you don’t need to just go based on visual differences. Here’s one article about the removal process up to now with an interview of a biologist who’s pro-hunting.

            Relocation of the barred owls isn’t feasible, because no matter where you send them, there’s probably already owls there, and relocation often results in the animal dying off anyway.

            What’s the alternative? Watch as the spotted owls are out-competed and go extinct due to human development and habitat destruction? To me, that seems worse. We already hunt to maintain populations of animals in other species - deer spring to mind. Since we’ve eliminated many of the deer’s predators, we need to maintain that role, which includes setting hunting targets each year. Why are these owls different?

            • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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              2•1 year ago

              Lol

              • @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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                3•1 year ago

                very convincing argument

                • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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                  1•1 year ago

                  Lul

          • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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            10•1 year ago

            Visually, in most cases.

            Hunters are supposed to be able to identify accurately what they’re shooting specifically so that they don’t kill endangered species or animals you’re otherwise not allowed to shoot. Sometimes it can be hard but if you’re not sure, never pull the trigger.

            • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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              2•1 year ago

              Sure bro

              • @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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                6•1 year ago

                You’re welcome

          • @JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world
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            2•1 year ago

            How are you so confidently uninformed? “I know nothing about this subject so I’m probably qualified to make wild assumptions”

            • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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              1•1 year ago

              I actually know hunters. Good luck with the purge, lmao

            • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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              1•1 year ago

              https://lemmy.world/post/14121035

              😂

              Good timing, or just shit the hicks do every day?

              I know which is true in my neck of the woods.

      • @z00s@lemmy.world
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        3•1 year ago

        Kill enough until they’re both endangered, then it’ll be easy

        • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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          1•1 year ago

          That’s thinking with patriotism!

    • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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      1•1 year ago

      Yeah. Actual conservationists tend to be pretty good shots.

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