It’s a matter of what ammunition, not ammunition in general. Ukraine uses a quarter of a million artillery shells a month. The US doesn’t have facilities to build them that fast because we would never need to use that many. We would absolutely own the sky over both the battlefield and Russia itself, reducing the utility of artillery and increasing it’s effectiveness. The benefits of combined arms and force multiplication can’t be overstated.
We could very quickly build out capacity to produce the shells Ukraine needs, but it’s a problem of economics. Those facilities are expensive, and wouldn’t be required long enough to provide suppliers a return on investment. We would have to pay a massive premium on those shells and, this far, there hasn’t been the will to do that.
Where else? Personal stockpiles, but that’s hardle a point versus your assertion of one factory doing national production.
Certainly numbers are dwindling for US manufacturing, but (without data at hand) this asserton smells of rhetoric. Talking points. It would.be strategic suicide to allow that state of affairs to exist in this day and age, and yet, … You might be right. Darn you.
My point is, “point taken.” Now I gotta go look up US domestic ammunition production, except I wasn’t planning to sign up for new government watchlists this weekend.
This is what scares me - the idea that we could run out of conventional weapons during a hot war, and start having to think of all those nukes lying around “doing nothing”
Some powers really are too much for humans. We’re not ready
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Running out of old stockpiles to send. Western militaries have plenty to spare, but it’d be the ammo they actually use.
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What your suggesting is false and no source will convince you otherwise. Your acting in bad faith.
He’s a mod for a dying conservative community, he does this ALL the time.
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You did not cite a source. You made a baseless claim that these sources exist.
I’m solely blaming you for your deluded and misinformed takes.
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This article doesn’t support your assertion. You clearly have a issue with comprehension.
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It’s been a common line pretty much since the war in Ukraine began:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/10/russia-might-be-running-out-of-tanks/?sh=23e456721027
Think of it like this:
Russia invades Ukraine and rather than bulldozing them in a week, they have been fought to a stand still for 2 years.
If Russia had to fight Ukraine + the combined power of NATO how fast would it end?
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It’s a matter of what ammunition, not ammunition in general. Ukraine uses a quarter of a million artillery shells a month. The US doesn’t have facilities to build them that fast because we would never need to use that many. We would absolutely own the sky over both the battlefield and Russia itself, reducing the utility of artillery and increasing it’s effectiveness. The benefits of combined arms and force multiplication can’t be overstated.
We could very quickly build out capacity to produce the shells Ukraine needs, but it’s a problem of economics. Those facilities are expensive, and wouldn’t be required long enough to provide suppliers a return on investment. We would have to pay a massive premium on those shells and, this far, there hasn’t been the will to do that.
More concerning is where did all our ammo go? Surely not those MAGA rubes hoarding it.
Whatever would be the point of that, I wonder?
Fucking vote like our lives are depending on it. All of them.
Guns don’t win wars, they’re important, but we’re talking about artillery, missiles, drones, etc. Nobody is beating Russia with rifles.
Clearly true. See my other comment in this thread
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Where else? Personal stockpiles, but that’s hardle a point versus your assertion of one factory doing national production.
Certainly numbers are dwindling for US manufacturing, but (without data at hand) this asserton smells of rhetoric. Talking points. It would.be strategic suicide to allow that state of affairs to exist in this day and age, and yet, … You might be right. Darn you.
My point is, “point taken.” Now I gotta go look up US domestic ammunition production, except I wasn’t planning to sign up for new government watchlists this weekend.
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I cede my point. Well argued, and no I really don’t have any data on US arms production at hand to argue otherwise.
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This is what scares me - the idea that we could run out of conventional weapons during a hot war, and start having to think of all those nukes lying around “doing nothing”
Some powers really are too much for humans. We’re not ready
Western military uses bombs and missiles from planes not artillery. There isn’t much artillery ammo because our military isn’t set up to use it.
Ukraine doesn’t have the air superiority to risk doing the same thing so the way they fight doesn’t match the way Europe or the us does.
Yeah… Good, I guess… This is a terrible subject, isn’t it?
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