• @lobut@lemmy.ca
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    Just don’t mention assault rifle, you’ll trigger someone.

    (I got one!)

      • Aaron
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        202 years ago

        The people don’t need to be taken seriously, the issue does. Arguing over semantics isn’t helpful unless it’s “Legislating against assault rifles won’t do anything because that’s not a thing. We need to …” And the words after the ellipsis can’t be “…do nothing.”

        • @thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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          82 years ago

          Assault rifles have been illegal since the 30s. You’re advocating a ban on something that’s already banned and has been for almost a hundred years. Do you see how stupid and unhelpful that is? Why should I take your issue seriously when you don’t seem to even understand it?

            • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️
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              22 years ago

              I have a solution, but the capitalists will hate it because it will impact their sales. Pass common sense SSRI laws and prohibit minors from taking them. Make it harder for adults to be proscribed them. Investigate doctors who over proscribe them.

              • @AmberPrince@lemmy.world
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                22 years ago

                At least you have a solution unlike the other guy. I disagree with it, but at least it is an actual proposed solution.

                • @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  Oh, in this case I have a solution too. We need to heavily regulate uses and distrubution of moon regolith. The solution is way better than that guy’s is, because there is not a lot of moon regolith available and it’s hard to get, so it will be very easy to achieve. Of course it has nothing to do with the problem, but neither is his

              • @RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
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                22 years ago

                What? How is making a class of antidepressants harder to get at all a gun control solution? What the hell am I missing here? Did everyone just see “common sense” and “laws” and forget to read the rest?

            • @thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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              12 years ago

              And you’re appealing to emotion instead of making any effort to understand and effectively solve the problem you have strong opinions about. You’re entitled to your opinions but if you don’t know what you’re talking about maybe shut up, you’re not doing anyone any favors being an uninformed loudmouth.

              • @Iceman@lemmy.world
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                52 years ago

                How many school shootings have we had now? How could you not understand that kids geting shot is at the very core of the issue? You’re not calling out a fallacy here, you’re acting like a psychopath ignoring the issue.

                You bait yourself to get triggered by an obvious joke. You argue semantics even after being called out on it and don’t even know what an appeal to emotion is. Ever wonder if you’re the one that needs to stop typing for a bit? You come of as nothing but the uninformed loudmouth you ask to shut up.

              • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                62 years ago

                Yes, actually, he did. Semantics about the fucking definition of a goddamn “assault rifle” is a game that pussy-assed little bitches play.

                • @thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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                  22 years ago

                  It’s something that people who understand the issue do. People who scream about banning a thing that’s been illegal for 100 years are dipshits.

                  • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                    Again: playing semantics and deliberately ignoring the argument to make an irrelevant claim is a game that pussy-assed little bitches do. What is being discussed by the grown-ups in the group is something that has NOT been illegal for 100 years and has been a PROVEN success previously. This is the fucking reason it is being discussed.

                    Facts dont care about your feelings.

          • @Inktvip@lemm.ee
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            52 years ago

            If they’re banned since the 30’s, how come I keep stumbling on YouTube content featuring them?

            Note, I’m not from the US, so an ‘assault rifle’ to me is everything that is listed in that category in video games.

            • @thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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              62 years ago

              An assault rifle is full auto, or burst fire, a machine gun basically. That’s also the case in every video game I’ve played. You can own them if you get a special federal license, it’s expensive so there aren’t many out there. Guys will set up businesses charging people $50 to shoot one for a few minutes. That’s probably what you saw on YouTube. No mass shooting in recent history was done with an assault rifle.

              An assault weapon is an imaginary legal term created during the Clinton administration so it could look like they were doing something about gun violence. The awb defines assault weapons using superficial cosmetic items like a bayonete mount, a pistol grip, a flash suppressor, etc. The same gun with 2 of these is legal, 3 of them and suddenly it’s illegal despite no functional changes to the gun. Assault weapons and the assault weapon ban were idiotic ineffective political theater.

              Mass shootings are usually carried out with a semi-auto rifle, which means it automatically reloads the chamber and is ready to fire another round as fast as you can pull the trigger. The most popular one is the ar-15. It’s the standard semi-auto rifle, they’re everywhere because they’re cheap, common, and reliable. They show up in mass shootings because they’re so common, not because they’re necessarily dealer than any other semi auto rifle. The AR stands for “armalite rifle”. It’s the civilian version of the M-16 assault rifle.

          • (80s, but other than that you right.)

            Of course the reason they (those at “the top” of the gun ctrl debate, MDA, Everytown, etc) are trying to conflate select fire assault rifles and their visually similar but mechanically different civilian owned semi automatic rifles is because they want to slowly chip away at semiautomatics but it’s harder to drum up support from all but the most fervent with that position, so they pretend they’re select fire to trick people like those in these comment sections who don’t actually know how guns function, nor what any of those words mean, nor the gun control laws we already have, into banning them so then when absolutely fuck all changes except the 500/yr killed by rifles are now killed by pistols and they can say "see we tried the rigistry and whatnot and it did nothing, the jews are still commiting too much crime so turn in your guns or else we’ll round you up (sorry, errant Hitler quote about gun control, which he leveed against the jews yet expanded for his crews), so we have to ban it all.

            • @thecrotch@sh.itjust.works
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              22 years ago

              The ban was strengthened in 1986. Assault rifles have been essentially illegal since the national firearms act of 1934. Assault rifles have been used in 0 recent mass shootings, and people on the internet screaming for an assault rifle ban to solve the problem of mass shootings are fucking idiots.

              • r3df0x ✡️✝☪️
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                42 years ago

                An AR-15 is still an assault rifle. It’s based on the assault rifle. Trying to hide that is just pandering to the anti gun side.

      • @Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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        02 years ago

        Unless you know exactly all the specks of a weapon used to muder you, you aren’t allowed to ask not to be murdered. It’s that one simple trick that all murderers should remember