• DessertStorms
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    252 years ago

    No, what we really need is to end capitalism, not pin our hopes on one team or another when both exist to uphold the very system enabling this bullshit (hint: their agencies are never going to work for you).

    • @deur@feddit.nl
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      482 years ago

      Man, fuck taking any step in the right direction eh? Let’s just hope for the entire world to change instead of hoping for a reasonable change that is a big step in the right direction.

      “Can’t have anything if it isn’t perfect”

      • DessertStorms
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        Ah, yes, incremental change and playing within the rules set by our oppressors, that’s worked so well …checks notes… never.

        Lulling the population in to a false sense of security, but more importantly - comfort, is exactly how you not only maintain the status quo, but how you enable fascism.

        But sure, to those who are privileged enough not to already be personally impacted, I’m sure voting for team blue feels like a real win… 🙄

        https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

        https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

        https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

        • @MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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          Union wins weren’t incremential change for the betterment of worker conditions…?

          You really should check the dates on all those achievements… They weren’t granted from the beginning of even the young US, nor all at once.

          It is ironically your gatekeeping of “progress” that holds back the gains you want to see because of your contempt at the only path proven effective. Sad.

          Socialism isn’t a switch we flip. We cannot magic away the current systems of power. Like it or not, most people are too dumb, self centered, or just plain busy to consciously change the systems they deal with. It CANNOT be done by telling everyone the world has to be radically different.

          Does it have to be radically different to be equitable? Yes. Is that one of the next 20 stops on the way to an equitable society? NO! You cannot jump to the peak of a mountain simply because you can see it on a clear day.

          Pretending the previous power structure has magically evaporated simply because you’ve pulled a revolution is EXACTLY how every socialist movement gets turned in to fascism. Stop feeding that ignorant mindset that we do not have to deal with existing power structures and powerful. We ALWAYS have to deal with existing power structures. Completely. Even literally killing off the old to avoid their toxic influence creates a new power structure with capital punishment powers that not everyone will remotely agree with.

          Again, your ignorance to how the real world works is alarming. Fix your perspective or continue to hinder progress. The choice is yours.

      • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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        102 years ago

        I mean capitalism is literally enabling the fossil fuel industry to continue to ramp up production, while we are heading into a climate apocalypse. It’s too late for steps.

      • @KepBen@lemmy.world
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        92 years ago

        “We can’t have a revolution against capitalism until after we address all the symptoms of capitalism individually!”

        • Somebody deeply invested in solving problems and certainly not a beneficiary of this corrupt and broken system