Lack of security updates would be a big one. With Android products that has been my most common reason to switch. With Apple, its usually battery and/or wear & tear.
You’ve got to be on a very old phone before you stop getting updates pushed through though?
I know Apple are actually pretty good at legacy updates, but Android has got to be 5 or 6 years? Although the challenge is probably more to the variety of Anroid options out there in both the OS configurations and the hardware, where iOS is just iOS and the hardware is known.
I feel that when you get to that age then your battery is pretty much cooked anyway unless it’s had very light use or the owner has been absolutely meticulous in it’s care.
I don’t think I’ve gotten an update on my 2019 era android phone for 3 years? Samsung before that usually stopped after a 1.5 years. Maybe it’s better now? I’d like to see a mandate to unlock bootloaders and give us root on our own darn phones, and maybe some standard like we have for PCs where MS and Linux both make generic OSs. I still don’t get why Android phones can’t just have generic Android updates provided by whatever distro you run.
I don’t know the current state, my Galaxy S4 mini was shipped with android 4.3 and it never even got 5 from Samsung. Custom rims delivered but 6 wasn’t available at all (plus the hardware struggled at that point).
Yeah, it’s years. I always keep my phone as long as possible, but I was forced to replace my previous phone because my bank app was going to stop functioning on Android version X and lower. My current phone is now 4 years old and I hope I won’t have to replace it any time soon. I hate setting up new devices. :p
I’ve been running rooted Android phones for more than 10 years now and have been using Google pay for about 4 of those years. Never had that happen. That seems very much like something you screwed up.
I’ve been running rooted Android phones for more than 10 years now and have been using Google pay for about 4 of those years. Never had that happen. That seems very much like something you screwed up.
Lack of security updates would be a big one. With Android products that has been my most common reason to switch. With Apple, its usually battery and/or wear & tear.
You’ve got to be on a very old phone before you stop getting updates pushed through though? I know Apple are actually pretty good at legacy updates, but Android has got to be 5 or 6 years? Although the challenge is probably more to the variety of Anroid options out there in both the OS configurations and the hardware, where iOS is just iOS and the hardware is known.
I feel that when you get to that age then your battery is pretty much cooked anyway unless it’s had very light use or the owner has been absolutely meticulous in it’s care.
Got a Sony Xperia premium XZ from 2017 with the latest update being from 2019, android version 9
I don’t think I’ve gotten an update on my 2019 era android phone for 3 years? Samsung before that usually stopped after a 1.5 years. Maybe it’s better now? I’d like to see a mandate to unlock bootloaders and give us root on our own darn phones, and maybe some standard like we have for PCs where MS and Linux both make generic OSs. I still don’t get why Android phones can’t just have generic Android updates provided by whatever distro you run.
Updates are for techminded folks like us, average people hate updates.
I’m sure they dislike oil changes too - but they probably don’t like the outcome of never doing either even less.
I don’t know the current state, my Galaxy S4 mini was shipped with android 4.3 and it never even got 5 from Samsung. Custom rims delivered but 6 wasn’t available at all (plus the hardware struggled at that point).
Yeah, it’s years. I always keep my phone as long as possible, but I was forced to replace my previous phone because my bank app was going to stop functioning on Android version X and lower. My current phone is now 4 years old and I hope I won’t have to replace it any time soon. I hate setting up new devices. :p
With Android you can just flash a custom ROM. Phones from the last 5 years even have treble support, meaning you can flash a generic ROM on any phone.
Not if you need to use apps that require Safetynet
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It does until it doesn’t. Joy to one morning discover I can’t pay for my bus ticket, while I’m already on the bus.
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Magisk and Safetynet do.
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Yes because Google totally can’t change Safetynet on their end… which is what happened last time I ran a custom ROM, in November 2021.
I’ve been running rooted Android phones for more than 10 years now and have been using Google pay for about 4 of those years. Never had that happen. That seems very much like something you screwed up.
I’ve been running rooted Android phones for more than 10 years now and have been using Google pay for about 4 of those years. Never had that happen. That seems very much like something you screwed up.
You are free to think so, but it’s hard to screw up something that worked for months and without any configuration changes breaks itself