• @bi_tux@lemmy.world
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    312 years ago

    On the other hand, guns don’t kill a lot of people in most european countries (even the ones with very little gun control)

      • @bi_tux@lemmy.world
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        202 years ago

        I mean sure, the US has almost no gun control, but in austria for example you don’t even need a permit for a lot of lethal weapons.

        I think it’s really a culture problem, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t regulate guns a bit

        • @RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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          92 years ago

          There are mountains of gun control laws in the USA. Saying the USA “has almost no gun control” is ridiculous.

        • @PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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          It doesn’t matter how permissive their gun laws are, nor how few mass shootings they have under them – they have gun laws that are broadly agreed to be safe for the public.

          This is true for every country in the world except America.

          It doesn’t matter if they are more permissive because their “culture” is less bloodthirsty or because their mental healthcare is better or they banned video games and doors. They have the social risk under control.

          When it turns out they don’t have the risks under control, such as following mass shootings in Australia and New Zealand, they change the laws.

          They even loosen those laws occasionally to make things like hobby shooting at ranges more accessible.

          None of that for America though! No matter how great the risks of their gun laws grow, no matter how clearly inappropriate they are for the current state of American society, the gun lobby demands that laws only get more dogshit.

          So Republicans make it happen for $16 million a year and the pro-gun crowd cheer them on because they don’t want to be mildly inconvenienced to save the lives of people they don’t give a shit about.

          • @Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world
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            12 years ago

            they have gun laws that are broadly agreed to be safe for the public.

            This is true for every country in the world except America.

            So clearly you don’t know about current gun laws in the US. You must be willfully ignorant to think that America does not have gun laws that are broadly accepted by the public

            • @PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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              12 years ago

              “Broadly agreed to be safe for the public” isn’t the same thing as “broadly accepted by the public” but sure, I guess all the mass shootings, armed criminals and child suicides are just because you’ve made everyone so damn safe

                • @PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee
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                  12 years ago

                  So clearly you don’t know about current gun laws in the US. You must be willfully ignorant to think that America does not have gun laws that are broadly accepted by the public

                  It’s literally exactly what you said, verbatim. Are we really supposed to trust you with guns and gun laws?

                  • @Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world
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                    12 years ago

                    par·a·phrase

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                    verb

                    gerund or present participle: paraphrasing express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words

        • qyron
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          The US has a very strange and, in my view, troubled relationship with guns.

          What transpires out is that most americans are still attached to the notion of solving problems at gun point and delivering justice through acute lead poisoning, like in the initial settling and further expansion of the country, with no care nor concern for rule of law.

          • Jeremy [Iowa]
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            12 years ago

            If that were the case, you’d be able to point to a significant amount of daily firearm violence - above and beyond every other form of violence.

      • @uis@lemmy.world
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        Finland, Ukraine(not including war). In some way Russia, where even if you don’t want, good unkle Voenkom will give you gun anyway.

      • Jeremy [Iowa]
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        12 years ago

        I’m not sure how you’d argue a background check and being of age at a minimum as a lack of firearm control.