Unless the reason travel by car takes really long is because of traffic jams, it’s actually rather hard to create public transit that actually wins out in time. Bus will be a lot slower, trains can only take you to so many places, and building a large metro system is prohibitively expensive.
I would like to use public transit, but when that would turn a 15 minute drive into a 55 minute trip, I’d rather not spend 27 hours a month extra going to work.
But you can do things while on the train like sleep or internet. It depends what that tradeoff is exactly, but I would still rather have a longer commute I can do things during.
Bus or car to work takes at least 40 minutes. When there’s a morning and evening rush, the bus wins easily because it has dedicated lanes and can go where cars are not allowed. Biking takes me 20 minutes no matter the time of day - even when it snows and it is black ice
Either you have a really bizarre definition of relaxation or you’ve never taken public transport in a busy city during peak hours.
Even in Los Angeles, where public transport is barely used, everything is packed at peak times. And that’s a place where people regularly take showers. I dare you to enjoy the relaxing experience of a bus at peak times in August in a third world country like Russia.
Like everything these days, it depends. I live in Seoul, where the density is arguably too high. If you get on the line 2 train, which encircles Gangnam and the business and tourist districts, you’re gonna be a sardine. If you hop on line 3 far enough east, it’s totally chill during rush hour in August. Literally. Air conditioning. Wifi and cell signal. It’s luxurious compared to LA.
I think it’s just a matter of city planning. In Seoul’s case, I think they didn’t properly account for population growth and how much the inner-circle areas would boom. Outside of line 2 and some key transfer stations, public transit here absolutely is relaxing. I brag to my friends in the states about it all the time
I agree, but some cities are just not compatible with public transport. Busses in LA fit 2 bicycles. How do you cover the final mile (which could be as far as 2.5 miles) in a city with mostly single family homes and lots of hills?
Impossible to compare Seoul to LA imho. Population density has its benefits like amazingly fast (fiber) internet connection, but accessibility of public transport isn’t one of them.
Yeah these people think getting screamed at and not being able to use earbuds for fear of some maniac sitting behind you is some sort of virtuous affair that should be experienced by all.
Imagine having no good public transport
Unless the reason travel by car takes really long is because of traffic jams, it’s actually rather hard to create public transit that actually wins out in time. Bus will be a lot slower, trains can only take you to so many places, and building a large metro system is prohibitively expensive.
I would like to use public transit, but when that would turn a 15 minute drive into a 55 minute trip, I’d rather not spend 27 hours a month extra going to work.
But you can do things while on the train like sleep or internet. It depends what that tradeoff is exactly, but I would still rather have a longer commute I can do things during.
I would rather sleep for an extra 40 minutes then have to get up 40 minutes earlier.
Bus or car to work takes at least 40 minutes. When there’s a morning and evening rush, the bus wins easily because it has dedicated lanes and can go where cars are not allowed. Biking takes me 20 minutes no matter the time of day - even when it snows and it is black ice
I wonder whose friend got multimillion contracts for building 6-lane(per direction) “roads”…
This is 15 minutes of work vs 55 minutes of relaxation.
Either you have a really bizarre definition of relaxation or you’ve never taken public transport in a busy city during peak hours.
Even in Los Angeles, where public transport is barely used, everything is packed at peak times. And that’s a place where people regularly take showers. I dare you to enjoy the relaxing experience of a bus at peak times in August in a third world country like Russia.
Like everything these days, it depends. I live in Seoul, where the density is arguably too high. If you get on the line 2 train, which encircles Gangnam and the business and tourist districts, you’re gonna be a sardine. If you hop on line 3 far enough east, it’s totally chill during rush hour in August. Literally. Air conditioning. Wifi and cell signal. It’s luxurious compared to LA.
I think it’s just a matter of city planning. In Seoul’s case, I think they didn’t properly account for population growth and how much the inner-circle areas would boom. Outside of line 2 and some key transfer stations, public transit here absolutely is relaxing. I brag to my friends in the states about it all the time
I agree, but some cities are just not compatible with public transport. Busses in LA fit 2 bicycles. How do you cover the final mile (which could be as far as 2.5 miles) in a city with mostly single family homes and lots of hills?
Impossible to compare Seoul to LA imho. Population density has its benefits like amazingly fast (fiber) internet connection, but accessibility of public transport isn’t one of them.
If we’re talking in terms of comfort my own car wins hands down?
Yeah these people think getting screamed at and not being able to use earbuds for fear of some maniac sitting behind you is some sort of virtuous affair that should be experienced by all.
It’s not Europe, so fuck off with that shit.