The White House says that Russia is executing soldiers who have failed to follow orders and threatening entire units with death if they retreat from Ukrainian artillery fire.
The ones who were executed declined to surrender while on Ukrainian territory. They also could have refused to serve and gone to prison instead, but they didn’t. These gopniks knew what they were getting involved in and they deserve what they got.
I’m sure you’d feel the same way about this distinction between nice Russian occupiers and bad Russian occupiers if it was your country they were invading, your culture they were destroying, and your democratic rights they were taking away. It’s incredibly naive.
If I was in that scenario, I would be more emotionally charged about the subject and rightfully so. But that doesn’t rewrite the facts of the situation- that this distinction is correct.
Misunderstanding your enemy is never a good idea, as it’s important to know what makes them tick. If they were all compliant fascists, that changes what kind of tactics are used to break their morale and even have a portion surrender, compared to being conscripts who don’t even believe in what they’re fighting for.
I’d like to think if I somehow ended up in this situation, and I knew they would just kill me for not following orders and i wasnt going to follow them, that’d I’d just kill whoever the top ranking person in the unit is who’d execute me and then kill myself.
But maybe they don’t realize they’ll be executed when this happens, I dunno.
Ya, that one’s a little different as he’d already escaped in essence.
If you’re in the trenches or on the front line or whatever, you aren’t going to survive the mutiny.
I’d be worried about them torturing instead of killing me once I started shooting in my own people, hence the intention to kill myself after to ensure it was quick and painless.
I love it when fascists murder each other!
I mean, it’s fascists murdering likely conscripted soldiers for refusing to go along with the fascists…
I doubt that distinction makes any difference to the Ukrainians who are defending their country from genocidal murderers.
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The ones who were executed declined to surrender while on Ukrainian territory. They also could have refused to serve and gone to prison instead, but they didn’t. These gopniks knew what they were getting involved in and they deserve what they got.
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I’m sure you’d feel the same way about this distinction between nice Russian occupiers and bad Russian occupiers if it was your country they were invading, your culture they were destroying, and your democratic rights they were taking away. It’s incredibly naive.
If I was in that scenario, I would be more emotionally charged about the subject and rightfully so. But that doesn’t rewrite the facts of the situation- that this distinction is correct.
Misunderstanding your enemy is never a good idea, as it’s important to know what makes them tick. If they were all compliant fascists, that changes what kind of tactics are used to break their morale and even have a portion surrender, compared to being conscripts who don’t even believe in what they’re fighting for.
But it is my country
I’d like to think if I somehow ended up in this situation, and I knew they would just kill me for not following orders and i wasnt going to follow them, that’d I’d just kill whoever the top ranking person in the unit is who’d execute me and then kill myself.
But maybe they don’t realize they’ll be executed when this happens, I dunno.
Apparently that’s happened, the guy who donated the helicopter had to a kill a few people to pull it off
Ya, that one’s a little different as he’d already escaped in essence.
If you’re in the trenches or on the front line or whatever, you aren’t going to survive the mutiny.
I’d be worried about them torturing instead of killing me once I started shooting in my own people, hence the intention to kill myself after to ensure it was quick and painless.
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