• @lloram239@feddit.de
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    2 years ago

    Hamas has launched in the realm of 7000 rockets at Israel civilians since October 7. But hey, keep blaming it all on Israel. Lets make antisemitism cool again, you are doing your part already.

    And as always: Propose an alternative to how Israel should defend itself instead. Still haven’t heard anybody give one and it has been weeks.

    • @Serdan@lemm.ee
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      162 years ago

      Commiting genocide against a civilian population is not self defense. How can you read an article like the OP and just be completely empty inside? How broken are you?

      • @lloram239@feddit.de
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        92 years ago

        Commiting genocide against a civilian population is not self defense.

        For one, they don’t.

        And as always: Propose an alternative to how Israel should defend itself instead. Still haven’t heard anybody give one and it has been weeks.

        But keep listening to that Hamas propaganda it’s totally not rotting your brain away.

        • Cethin
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          72 years ago

          An alternative? There are infinite. They can start cooperating and make a good will gesture of returning occupied lands back to the Palestinian people. They can stop colonizing and murdering innocent civilians (which isn’t only just now happening, it’s constant in occupied lands). They can loosen restriction on travel between Gaza and Israel.

          The solution is to improve relations with the people. Attacking them and killing civilians only causes more hate, which causes more violence. It isn’t defence. It’s genocide. They get Hamas to attack and they get to kill more Palestinians.

          • @lloram239@feddit.de
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            62 years ago

            They tried that, didn’t work, each time they were meet with more Hamas terrorism. What’s your second suggestion from the pool of infinite alternative?

            • Cethin
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              42 years ago

              They never tried that. They have been constantly expanding colonies and murdering civilians in occupied lands. The whole nation started with just some Jews colonizing the territory, and it was made official after that when they knew there was no stopping it (not that they would anyway). They did reduce their harm for a period, but they never really tried to do good.

              • @lloram239@feddit.de
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                22 years ago

                What’s your second suggestion from the pool of infinite alternative? Or are you already out of ideas?

              • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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                12 years ago

                They never tried that.

                They did, in the Gaza Strip which has no colonies, self rule and the 1967 borders. In the mid 2000s. They evicted every Jew from the Gaza strip

      • @fosforus@sopuli.xyz
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        42 years ago

        Commiting genocide against a civilian population is not self defense.

        Only Hamas is doing that, though.

        • @PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          Isreal is indiscriminately bombing civilian population centers and diving out people based on ethnicity.

          What Isreal is doing absolutely falls under the category of genocide.

          Kill civilians is indefensible.

          • @SCB@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            Isreal is indiscriminately bombing civilian population centers and diving out people based on ethnicity.

            These two things are mutually exclusive

              • @SCB@lemmy.world
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                32 years ago

                I don’t support genocide in any way, shape, or form, but rather don’t buy into the narrative that Israel is at all committing genocide.

                There’s lots to be upset with Israel about without exaggerating to literally the worst thing possible.

            • @PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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              32 years ago

              They’ve been bombing civilian centers.

              They’ve been evicting people from their homes based on ethnicity.

              These are two different actions.

              • @SCB@lemmy.world
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                2 years ago

                I see your confusion now.

                They’re doing the latter because of the former, not as an organized and permanent method of displacement.

                Hamas attempts to pen people in with threats of violence (and acts of violence) in an attempt to maximize civilian casualties as well.

                https://lemmy.world/comment/4827329

          • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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            22 years ago

            Isreal is indiscriminately bombing civilian/Palestinian population centers and diving people out of their homes.*

            A 48 hour WW2 era artillery barrages would flatten the Gaza Strip. Believing that Israel is “indiscriminately bombing” the strip requires you to believe that they’re the most incompetent military force to have ever walked the planet.

            • @PizzaMan@lemmy.world
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              32 years ago

              When I say “indiscriminate” I mean “disregard for civilian casualties” not “random bombings”.

              • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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                32 years ago

                They clearly have a regard for civilian casualties. That’s why they haven’t hit some mosques, schools and other buildings that are known to be seats of Hamas’ power.

    • Cethin
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      102 years ago

      Why did you start counting at October 7th? Palestine, Hamas, and Israel have existed much longer and been in conflict much longer.