• Granixo
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    2 years ago

    Vapes are even worse than cigarettes, for real.

    • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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      142 years ago

      This is incorrect and an easy to debunk claim… the tar in cigarettes is extremely harmful and vaping removes that element. However, vaping is still bad for you and it is still just as addictive.

      • Spzi
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        72 years ago

        I found it much easier to quit vaping, compared to cigarettes. There are nicotine free liquids, so you can slowly wean off.

        • @WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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          52 years ago

          This is my experience, having quit my 10 year cigarette addiction via vaping (after dozens of failed attempts to quit), then accidentally re-addicting myself 5 years later (via vaping) — then quitting again after another year.

          Vaping is arguably more addictive due to the nicotine salts, taste, and ease of use, but it’s also far easier to quit — plus my health improved dramatically when I switched to vaping.

          When I first quit with vaping, I just gradually reduced the nicotine level down to zero, then continued vaping no-nic for months until I stopped completely; the key part is sticking to the no-nic no matter what (at parties or whenever drinking). Decoupling the habit from the addiction means you don’t have to stop both at once. The second time around it only took a single attempt, except I went straight to no-nic.

          • Spzi
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            12 years ago

            Yes, I think decoupling is worth a lot!

            Also true what you say about more addictive due to reasons.

            Overall very informative comment, thanks!

            Do you keep your vape device stored somewhere over the years in case of a relapse? Or do you get a new one when needed? I see arguments for both sides.

        • arefx
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          32 years ago

          That’s what I didm smoked cigs for 10 years tried quitting many times I bought a vape with blue raz juice all the way for the top to 0nic and every two weeks I would lower my nicotine levels after a few months I was on 0 and tossed it. Nicotine free for 6 years. Thank you vaping for helping me quit nicotine

          • Spzi
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            12 years ago

            Well done! Stay strong 🤜🤛

    • Cethin
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      122 years ago

      It’s different from cigarettes. You don’t get all the tar and stuff, but many people get even more nicotine, which is bad for your heart and addictive. I would say it’s likely better, but it’s different.

      (There’s also non-nicotine vape products which often aren’t regulated so can cause all kinds of issues.)

      • Granixo
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        22 years ago

        Easily the best answer i’ve gotten on this thread.

        • @Neil@lemmy.ml
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          12 years ago

          “Maybe bad for your heart” vs “4000+ chemicals taken in by literally inhaling carcinogenic smoke.”

          I still fail to see how you came to the conclusion vaping is much worse.

          • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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            02 years ago

            I don’t see where they’re arguing that vaping is worse, that’s a strawman, they’re arguing that both are bad.

            • @Neil@lemmy.ml
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              02 years ago

              “Vapes are even worse than cigarettes, for real.”

              That is a direct quote from the person I responded to. How is that not clear enough for you?

              • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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                02 years ago

                Sure, but they’re clearly wrong in that and in the comment above they conceded the point. You’re just kicking a dead horse at this point.

                • @Neil@lemmy.ml
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                  12 years ago

                  What are you talking about? They don’t concede that point in either of the two comments they made. I’m starting to think you’re trolling me and it’s working. Good job, bud. Got me good.