This would save young Americans from going into crippling debt, but it would also make a university degree completely unaffordable for most. However, in the age of the Internet, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t get an education.

Consider the long term impact of this. There are a lot of different ways such a situation could go, for better and for worse.

  • @nodsocket@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    8
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    On the flip side, consider this. If no one can afford university, then the universities will have a reduced income and they’ll be forced to adapt by shrinking and lowering tuition rates. Cheaper institutions will end up with a competitive advantage. This could ironically make degrees more affordable.

    • @redballooon@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      16
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      You are saddling the horse from behind.

      Yea, the education must get cheaper. A lot. But the lever to do that is a cost adjustment for the education, not artificially lowering demand by discriminating against the poor even more.

    • @cabbagee@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      92 years ago

      This only works if the product isn’t in demand. Degrees are in high demand - jobs require them, better jobs require multiple and higher prestige degrees. That isn’t going to change.

      Instead those rich enough would still get a degree, but middle and lower classes would be cut out. In the end it would create a wider gap between the classes.

    • Mr Fish
      link
      fedilink
      52 years ago

      A. That would only be true in a culture where employers don’t think you need a degree for basic jobs. From what I’ve seen, the US isn’t like that.

      B. Even if people are practically able to turn down uni, all the universities will most likely agree to keep prices high, similar to what landlords do. If all of them keep their prices high, then all of them get more money.

      • @nodsocket@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        If no one could get a degree, employers would have to change their requirements to reflect this. Otherwise they won’t be able to find any employees.

        Universities need to have their classrooms filled to stay in business. If attendance plummets, then they will be forced to adapt by reducing tuition prices and reducing expenses, i.e. providing less amenities.

        • @cabbagee@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          22 years ago

          They wouldn’t change the requirements. We see it now. When a company can’t find “qualified” candidates, they outsource it to international contractors.

    • @xkforce@lemmy.world
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      5
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      It cost 70k to get my degree. Any idea how much tuition would have had to be for someone living out of a trailer to be able to afford it? If your answer was zero dollars you are correct.

        • @xkforce@lemmy.world
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          5
          edit-2
          2 years ago

          Education is how people get out of poverty op. The issue is that the US has a dog eat dog fuck the poor mentality that keeps the ladders out of poverty out of reach then blames them for their situation. The only thing that should determine whether you get into college should be your capability to do the work or not. Not what is or is not in your bank account.

          The actual solution is to make college free given academic benchmarks are hit and institute mechanisms to keep costs under control that go beyond “how can we maximize profit?”

          • @TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            02 years ago

            The benchmarks have to be weighted in order for this system to be fair across income levels. Also, making college free benefits well-off students more than poorer students. So many public schools offer full rides for low-income students, especially if they are first-generation students.

              • @TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                02 years ago

                How long ago were you in college? From my friends’ experiences, the lower income ones have had a really easy getting their educational expenses covered through grants and first-gen scholarships offered by my university. This does ignore living expenses, but strictly from a university perspective, they get more money than they pay.