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  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    262 years ago

    Hamas awful actions

    Didn’t happen in a vacuum…

    There’s reasons people are willing to die in a war they have no chance of winning.

    It’s stand up for your people or watch them essentially be tortured slowly to death.

    • Chariotwheel
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      222 years ago

      I mean, at the same time I can’t support mass rape. Or rape in general.

      Also not a fan of carrying around naked corpses of multilated people. Not a fan.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        222 years ago

        You think every Palestinian is doing that?

        That’s the main use of propaganda, take some isolated incidents that really did happen nd really are inexcusable, and amplify the shit out of that so people think the whole side is doing that.

        The militaries of both sides are doing awful shit, but only one side has the power to enforce peace.

        • Chariotwheel
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          152 years ago

          You think every Palestinian is doing that?

          Which part of “Hamas awful actions” made you think that I extend this to all Palestinians?

          • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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            92 years ago

            I mean, at the same time I can’t support mass rape. Or rape in general

            If the actions of a few are enough for you not to support Palestinians…

            Then yeah, you’re extending that to all Palestinians.

            • Chariotwheel
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              152 years ago

              Why do I need to support mass rape to support the Palestinian peoples right to a state and a free life?

              At what point is mass rape necessary for that?

              Mass rape is wrong and I stand by that in what appears to be a surprisingly controversial move.

              • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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                52 years ago

                You don’t…

                No one said you had to, even suggested you should…

                But when you take the actions of a few and blame an entire population for the actions of those few…

                That’s bigotry. That’s no different than seeing a gay child abuser and claiming all gay people abuse children, or seeing a Black drug dealer and saying all Black people are now drug dealers.

                Hell, I’m American and was in the military. American military members rape other American military members at a truly disturbing rate. Does that mean I’m guilty because I belong to the same population? To take it even further, do you blame those victims as well?

                Do you legitimately not understand? Because I’m starting to have doubts on your sincerity

                • Chariotwheel
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                  92 years ago

                  I don’t know why you keep insisting that I disavow all Palestinians.

                  That deep into the thread I don’t know if you’re willfully ignorant just to score some points against someone that isn’t me.

                  To spell it out again: I think rape is bad. I think that Palestina should be a state. If that’s somehow incompatible to you, you need to check yourself.

    • DarkGamer
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      It’s stand up for your people or watch them essentially be tortured slowly to death.

      There is another option. Negotiate a viable peace, which they have refused to do repeatedly. Palestine is essentially a defeated state that refuses to acknowledge its loss or make concessions. The only victory condition they are willing to entertain is not viable and their insistence on fighting an unwinnable war, often via guerilla attacks and terrorism, will not end well for them.