In a shocking incident, horrific visuals are surfacing on the internet in which it can be seen that the Hamas militants are taking a semi-naked dead body of an Israeli woman on an open truck and parading in the city. It is said that the militants after attacking Israel are killing and taking the civilians as hostage. The militants took the dead bodies of the innocent civilians who were killed during the attack in open trucks and paraded them.

  • @Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
    54•2 years ago

    This is almost as bad as the Palestinian settlement destruction and genocide by Israel. Not quite but almost.

    • @AliasAKA@lemmy.worldEnglish
      119•2 years ago

      What Israel does is as you described. But can we please not use whataboutism to try and justify barbaric behavior? This is grotesque. Things done to Palestine are grotesque. Let’s just call evil things evil and not try and say “hey cause someone else did an evil this evil is okay.”

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
        15•2 years ago

        I mean I can’t say I support murdering civilians, but Israel had this coming for a long time. It’s not whataboutism, more just the natural consequence of Israeli policy the last 80 years.

        • @AliasAKA@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9•2 years ago

          Ignoring the ad hominem in your post, I never said Hamas was Palestine. I said that things done to Palestine are grotesque. I said this action by Hamas was grotesque, and replying to the original commenter that it was “almost as bad” as heinous acts done by the recipient of this evil act does not justify this evil act.

          And the Holocaust has literally nothing to do with this discussion, as you mention. Better to make your point would be to actually discuss whataboutism as a definition and provide discussion for why making a counter accusational justification doesn’t qualify as whataboutism (note: the definition of whataboutism is literally responding to an accusation with a counter accusation in an attempt to side step the issue, which I believe is exactly what happened here, eg “this evil act (the accusation) is actually not that bad because of the other evil acts of Israel (counter accusation)”).

          So my argument still stands to the tenets by definition, I never equated Hamas to Palestine (and in fact made the same point that acts done to them were also horrible), and never defended Israel or Hamas. I just don’t believe that killing civilians, or committing war crimes or attempting terror campaigns, is justifiable (by either side).

    • @arin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1•2 years ago

      Both are bad but can we work on our own issues, can’t even make peace within our own Western nations between conservatives and liberals