• mihnt
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    112 years ago

    What the hell does any of that matter? You trying to hit me with a gotcha when I say I give a shit about cats and dogs?

    I am not now, and never will be a vegan.

    Go convince someone who’s on the fence about it. I ain’t your guy.

    • Unmarketable Plushie
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      What the hell does any of that matter?

      Studies have shown that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. By your logic, eating pigs is more cruel than eating dogs.

      I am not now, and never will be a vegan.

      Alright, I never asked you to become vegan. I just pointed out your code of ethics, when it comes to what animals do and don’t deserve empathy, is cruel and irrational. What you do with that information is up to you.

      • mihnt
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        Studies have shown that pigs are more intelligent than dogs. By your logic, eating pigs is more cruel than eating dogs.

        And there it is. The gotcha.

        I just pointed out your code of ethics

        I’ll make sure not to eat peppa pig if I ever run across her.

        My whole point in the first damn place was that making a comic with humanized pigs doesn’t make me feel anymore empathy than I already do. It doesn’t change my stance. It’s all propaganda.

        • slst
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          72 years ago

          I love how you say “the gotcha” as it invalidated the argument. There is a paradox in your ethics, pointing out the way ppl tell you about it won’t change anything about the fact being presented here.

          It feels like to me that you are more concerned about winning an argument than adressing what is being talked about here.

            • slst
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              62 years ago

              Don’t interact then. As simple as that, if you can’t take input from other people on online forums.

        • @Apollo@sh.itjust.works
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          62 years ago

          So you are aware of the cruelty but proudly proclaim that you’ll always willingly participate, no matter what?

          • mihnt
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            42 years ago

            I’m actually a cave man who’s using an AOL disc to access the internet and meat is required for me to live.

      • @DLSchichtl@lemmy.world
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        42 years ago

        Studies have shown that pigs are more intelligent than dogs.

        They eat and shit in the same place. Idk what their measure for intelligence is, but most smart mammals don’t shit where they eat.

                • mihnt
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                  42 years ago

                  They came in here looking for a fight because someone defaced their propaganda.

                  • Unmarketable Plushie
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                    52 years ago

                    No, I’m pointing out the stupidity of the argument that talking = deserving of life.

                    Also, “propaganda” is an interesting word choice. I bet you would call it something else if it was a message you agreed with.

                  • @DLSchichtl@lemmy.world
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                    32 years ago

                    Vegans being insufferable, what else is new. Fun to imagine them crying and typing their furious little rebuttals to people who honestly don’t care.

                    Maybe we need to flood the conversation with some big steamy pics of bbq pork to chase em away.

                • Unmarketable Plushie
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                  42 years ago

                  Things don’t literally have to be said to be stated. You brought up that factoid (which got debunked in by someone else in the comment section who actually has experience with pigs) to imply that pigs aren’t deserving of empathy like dogs are. There is literally no reason to bring that up other than a pathetic attempt at a rebuttal.

        • They actually don’t. I’ve raised pigs, and they keep themselves clean- they pick one corner of the pen to shit in and a different corner to sleep and eat in, given the opportunity. The idea that they shit where they eat is probably (dunno for sure) because they clean themselves by taking dust baths, and when it rains, the wallow turns into mud. They roll in the mud to stay cool when it’s hot sometimes, but it isn’t shit.

          We had a pig when I was a kid who could work the lock on her pen and escape into the fields next door to eat grass. They’re pretty smart.

          • @DLSchichtl@lemmy.world
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            12 years ago

            Thousands of years of religion forbidding pork because of how unclean pigs are vs this anecdote. Damn, I’m defeated.

            • Unclean doesn’t always mean “dirty”. A lot of things that are considered unclean by different religions are considered so because they’re spiritually unclean, rather than literally filthy. Historical riligious objections to pork are probably because of human-transmissible parasites and disease like trichinosis, which aren’t as much of a concern anymore.

              • @DLSchichtl@lemmy.world
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                12 years ago

                Look at this jackass, thinking a collection of stories shared over thousands of years is the same just one little anecdote told by some jagoff on an internet thread.

            • Cethin
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              22 years ago

              Pigs were kept near to people and were a vector for disease because they share similar biology to us. They weren’t unclean because they didn’t wash their hands or something stupid. They were unclean because they made people sick because of they way we kept them after domestication.