California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.
The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.
This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.
If you think restricted magazines will change that at all, you’re sorely mistaken. Especially when you can just 3D print a magazine.
The type of person who owns a gun, wants an illegal extended magazine, will use it for crime, is not the kind of person who owns and knows how to use a 3d printer
You can get 3d printers for like $100 that are super easy to operate.
It’s also super easy to not kill people with guns. If someone is dumb enough to get into the latter, I’m gonna assume they aren’t smart enough to do the former
Like, obviously there’s gonna be some psychopath who uses 3d printed parts for a shooting at some point, but I can’t imagine your typical gangbanger sitting at his desk troubleshooting his printer, asking /r/3dprinting why it keeps delaminating at 53mm. Maybe it’ll become an issue once they can’t just get a solid, reliable expanded magazine for $30 from the next state over.
Nah, you’d be surprised. There’s plenty of well-populated, high-activity groups online these days for people who 3D print guns and gun accessories. There’s dozens of Discord servers where people share STL files all day long. There’s a lot of overlap between gun enthusiasts and 3D print enthusiasts these days.
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Nice strawman, buddy
Sounds like you’re the only one to talk about what might overlap. Are the guns to keep your feelings safe?
I don’t own any guns.
Well, I do, but one is my grandfather’s hunting rifle and one is a shotgun for pest control/clay pigeon shooting, and both are stored at my mom’s farm.
Oh well fire up the 3D printer because apparently guns are fucking awesome and everyone needs them, with absolutely no oversight or accountability.
That’s the usual level of pro-gun honesty though. “I don’t own any guns except for the 2 guns I own”.
Nice strawman there, buddy.
And while I own two guns, I don’t possess them or rely on them for protection. That’s an important distinction to make.
The “will use it for crime” part is where it stops overlapping. If you’re smart and tech savvy enough to operate a 3d printer, you’re probably smart enough to not be a criminal. I’m well aware of FOSSCAD and the inappropriately named AWCY.
Do you really think all violent criminals are stupid?
Plus, you do realize that the criminal doesn’t need to buy or operate a printer, right? There are hundreds of etsy shops and people on Facebook that will print whatever you want and mail it to you.
There are absurdly more guns than 3D printer users. Even when there is overlap, any kind of mechanical application is a big problem for 3D prints, with clearances and dimensions being a bit off, as well as being less durable. Shits pretty likely to just jam up.
It’s a box with a spring inside. There is nothing complicated or difficult to manufacture about it.
And yet magazine jamming is a thing
Cool, sounds like you shouldn’t be worried at all then. We’ll ban the magazines and the guns that go in them and you can just use 3D printed ones instead.
We’re talking magazines, not full guns. Magazines are very simple, mechanically. And a properly calibrated 3D printer has very tight tolerances.
Plus, you can buy a 3D printer for like $100 that does well enough to make one.
Mmm no they dont. Resin print maybe, but thats just gonna shatter.
I have no idea why you think a resin printed magazine would shatter.
Do you know what a magazine is?
Cus ive done a lot of resin printing. Its a pretty brittle material not used for making parts for anything. Hell even a resin printed scope would probably shatter just from recoil.
I think your printed magazine would jam
Non-brittle resin exists and isn’t any more expensive.