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Stamets [Mirror] to Memes@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago

A not-so-friendly reminder

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A not-so-friendly reminder

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Stamets [Mirror] to Memes@lemmy.ml • 2 years ago
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  • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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    My question is, why is there a distinction between a man identifying as a woman, an old pedo identifying as a 6 year old boy and a white woman identifying as a black one (this last one I know was real and just can’t remember the name of the person)?

    • ForeverComical
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      It’s really not that hard to understand why one is problematic and the other one isn’t. The only reason someone would have an issue with trans people is by inventing some “threat” to justify outdated and harmful societal taboos.

      • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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        First of, it’s not just threats, real assaults have happened already. And tons of cases of women complaining about not wanting to see male genitalia in locker rooms exist.

        Second, I would argue that at least the white woman identifying as black is just as harmless, if not more.

        • @Esqplorer@lemmy.zip
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          Tons of cases that you won’t link to as always

          • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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            7•2 years ago

            Here you go lazy boy/girl/whatever:

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/loudoun-schools-sex-assault-allegations/2021/10/13/02d3f144-2c61-11ec-8ef6-3ca8fe943a92_story.html

            https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-02/indecent-exposure-charges-filed-trans-woman-spa

            If you also want to get into the trans-athlete xenanigans:

            https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-when-transgender-fighter-fallon-fox-broke-opponent-s-skull-mma-fight

            https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/teammates-are-uneasy-changing-in-locker-room-with-trans-upenn-swimmer-lia-thomas/

        • o_d [he/him]
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          12•2 years ago

          Equating pedophilia with the sensibilities of a few reactionary women being harmed from simply seeing genetalia, when they can simply look the other way, is not the own you think it is.

          • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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            3•2 years ago

            What pedophilia? It’s just a 6 year old playing doctors, you biggot.

        • ForeverComical
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          Are trans people more likely to assault than the rest of the population? The fear you feel is implemented by societal norm and you are attempting to justify it which makes your standards way less than for changing your mind. What would change your mind on this is what you need to figure out. Then you ask yourself if that’s a reasonable amount of skepticism. You can work through your bias and become a better and less hateful person. I believe in you.

        • @GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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          More assaults take place against trans people than are made by trans people.

          I don’t want to see old man’s balls in men’s locker room either but the way to deal with that is to not stare at other’s naked bodies.

          Rachel Dolezal filed hate crime charges based on her false racial identity. That isn’t harmless. It us a different situation because she does identify as white at times.

    • @friendlymessage@feddit.de
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      That’s the dumbest question I’ve ever heard, congratulations

    • @supercheesecake@aussie.zone
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      16•2 years ago

      Wtf is wrong with you?!

      • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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        4•2 years ago

        Nothing, I’m just exploring a subject where I think there is a ton of hypocrisy.

        • @GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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          3•2 years ago

          And you are incorrect about that. You are very uninformed on this issue based on your examples. It feels like you tried to come up with counterexamples but took no time to assess their validity.

    • @Gamey@feddit.de
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      11•2 years ago

      Please all report this disgusting peace of shit, just wtf is wrong with humans?!!!

      • @El_Rocha@lm.put.tf
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        5•2 years ago

        Thank you for the insightful counter argument.

        It made me think a lot and reflect on my actions and now I want to change.

        And the change starts by putting your response in the trash.

        • @Gamey@feddit.de
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          You can’t argue with human garbage! ;)

          • @DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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            2•2 years ago

            Something something pigeons playing chess.

      • @IHaveTwoCows@lemm.ee
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        3•2 years ago

        Leaded paint, corporate news outlets, Abrahamic religions, and the Telecommunications Act

    • @GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com
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      Because those are three different situations?

      Transpeople have always existed we just did not see them as other humans historically had a habit of murdering them. Naturally this kept them out if sight and the modern transrights movement is attempting to change this.

      Your second example is not a real thing and if it were and adult identifying as a child would be delusional because they are not a child. Childhood is not a social construct like gender is so the situation is different.

      Rachel Dolezal was the person you were thinking of. While race is also a social construct she understood her ancestry to be different and pretended otherwise to the point if asking her brother to not point out she was white. That means she identifies as a white person on some level whereas transpeople do not identify as their assigned birth gender.

      Three different situations

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