This is so pathetic to look at, tons of accounts piling more upvotes on each other than a regular day at lemmy in total and constantly congratulating each other on their oh so based opinions. Bloody clown show, totally organic and not astroturfed at all.
Just a bit funny it looks exactly the same on each social media they pop out all of a sudden. “I am advocating for clean nuclear energy since school, derp”
My understanding is that they eventually become unserviceable as they age, because of mechanical/structular reasons, or because the costs of servicing them is so prohibitive that they are unserviceable economically.
That they definitely have a life cycle of begin, middle, and end.
Buildings and machinery fatigue and wear out over time.
And highly critical uptime devices and buildings need extra maintenance and upkeep.
Old sites need to be decommissioned. Even if you ignore the financial costs in the upkeep at some point they just fatigue to the point of needing to be replaced.
I’m not anti-nuclear, all I’m saying is if you want nuclear you have to build new sites, you can’t keep the old sites going forever.
Rotating equipment are replaceable is not that much of an issue they operate on regular steam.
Buildings are reinforced concrete unlikely to be a concern not in a reasonable timeframe unless rebars corrode for some reason.
Issue would be items operating with water directly in contact with the reactor, so critical piping, heat exchangers and reactor vessels, which I can’t say I am an expert specifically for nuclear plants.
I imagine the main concern would be the reactor itself as all reat can be replaced.
Russia isn’t really known for their safety rules. A lot of those reactors are running way past their expiration and are deteriorating past the point where they should be running.
It’s a finite fact. A reactor has a lifetime to it, then it needs to be replaced. Unlike other mechanical devices/engines it can’t be serviced because of the radiation involved.
Agreed except nuclear. After Chernobyl there were no Nuclear Power Plant accidents in any post-Soviet country. Iven the scale of corruption in country I’m surprised.
A lot of those reactors are running way past their expiration and are deteriorating past the point where they should be running.
It depends how you define expiration. ISS expired like 4 times if not more. For example St. Petesburg NPP still has 2 РБМК-1000(same as in Chernobyl, but modernized) built in 1980(and 1981). Both are planned to be decommisioned in 2025.
Unlike other mechanical devices/engines it can’t be serviced because of the radiation involved.
If reactors was unservicable, then there would be no need in NPP personel.
My point exactly. They have planned decommissioned dates because they cannot be serviced and maintained safely forever.
Unlike other mechanical devices/engines it can’t be serviced because of the radiation involved.
If reactors were unservicable, then there would be no need in NPP personel.
I disagree. During the lifetime operation of a plant they need personnel, it’s not an All or Nothing thing. They don’t just turn off the lights and shut the door and all walk out.
Hell, even after a plant starts it’s decommission plan, which can take 10 to 20 years, they still need personnel.
For the love of everything, at least let’s stop decommissioning serviceable nuclear plants.
Looking at you, Germany…
*looking intensifies*
Maybe it was Putin’s sabotage?
Upd: nah, his mentality of 90-ies gang member doesn’t allow him to think this far.
For real, God forbid we keep the actual safe, clean nuclear plants running
This doesn’t sound like astroturfing at all! lol
Why does it need to be astroturfing? It’s the same point the young climate activist in the article is making.
“Someone has a dissenting opinion it must be ASTROTURFING AAAAAHHHHHHH”-You for some reason…
This is so pathetic to look at, tons of accounts piling more upvotes on each other than a regular day at lemmy in total and constantly congratulating each other on their oh so based opinions. Bloody clown show, totally organic and not astroturfed at all.
Just a bit funny it looks exactly the same on each social media they pop out all of a sudden. “I am advocating for clean nuclear energy since school, derp”
Nothing to worry about. Just sit back relax and rejoice in the rollout of more coal and gas power plants. That’s the reality.
Haven’t you been around Reddit before this? The overwhelming opinion is pro-nuclear and nothing has changed here.
My understanding is that they eventually become unserviceable as they age, because of mechanical/structular reasons, or because the costs of servicing them is so prohibitive that they are unserviceable economically.
That they definitely have a life cycle of begin, middle, and end.
Well other countries have and are doing done so. I really doubt that the reason is anything that politics.
Buildings and machinery fatigue and wear out over time.
And highly critical uptime devices and buildings need extra maintenance and upkeep.
Old sites need to be decommissioned. Even if you ignore the financial costs in the upkeep at some point they just fatigue to the point of needing to be replaced.
I’m not anti-nuclear, all I’m saying is if you want nuclear you have to build new sites, you can’t keep the old sites going forever.
Rotating equipment are replaceable is not that much of an issue they operate on regular steam.
Buildings are reinforced concrete unlikely to be a concern not in a reasonable timeframe unless rebars corrode for some reason.
Issue would be items operating with water directly in contact with the reactor, so critical piping, heat exchangers and reactor vessels, which I can’t say I am an expert specifically for nuclear plants.
I imagine the main concern would be the reactor itself as all reat can be replaced.
He was specifically referring to the serviceable ones.
Disproven by Russia. Maybe sometimes core is replaced because it uses unsafe design by current standards like in St. Petesburg.
Russia isn’t really known for their safety rules. A lot of those reactors are running way past their expiration and are deteriorating past the point where they should be running.
It’s a finite fact. A reactor has a lifetime to it, then it needs to be replaced. Unlike other mechanical devices/engines it can’t be serviced because of the radiation involved.
Agreed except nuclear. After Chernobyl there were no Nuclear Power Plant accidents in any post-Soviet country. Iven the scale of corruption in country I’m surprised.
It depends how you define expiration. ISS expired like 4 times if not more. For example St. Petesburg NPP still has 2 РБМК-1000(same as in Chernobyl, but modernized) built in 1980(and 1981). Both are planned to be decommisioned in 2025.
If reactors was unservicable, then there would be no need in NPP personel.
My point exactly. They have planned decommissioned dates because they cannot be serviced and maintained safely forever.
I disagree. During the lifetime operation of a plant they need personnel, it’s not an All or Nothing thing. They don’t just turn off the lights and shut the door and all walk out.
Hell, even after a plant starts it’s decommission plan, which can take 10 to 20 years, they still need personnel.