• Deceptichum
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    2 years ago

    Yes it was Trump and not a legacy of war criminals that ruined it.

    • hypelightfly
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      272 years ago

      Tarnished doesn’t mean ruined. Trump tarnishing something doesn’t preclude it having happened before.

      • Deceptichum
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        You can’t tarnish something that is already tarnished…

        What’s next rusting something that’s already rusty? Wetting water? Dirtying dirt?

    • Neato
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      2 years ago

      Whataboutism this late in the game is just sad.

      • Deceptichum
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        32 years ago

        Oh I’m anti-Trump.

        I just hate the idea Americans had that before him they were good and it’s all Trumps fault that the world laughs at them.

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          My issue is that Obama’s presidency gave us on the left the idea that things could actually get better.

          Like for many of us, myself included, there was this idea of a hopeful optimistic future where Americans didn’t care what your gender was or what your sexuality was or what your politics were as long as you were trying to be a decent person you were okay.

          And in the seven years since Trump was elected that hope has been utterly demolished and now we’re just hoping that people can get their heads out of their asses long enough to like not destroy the planet before our potential children have to grow up in its wreckage.

          It boils my beans that all Trump had to do was be a do-nothing president, go out and shake a few babies and then grift to his heart’s content, and after 4 years pack it up and go home and take all the silver on his way out the door, and there would still be the possibility of things getting better but he just had to run his mouth, he had to get on social media, he had to incite people to violence and rage to make himself happy and now this is where we are.

    • HeartyBeast
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      62 years ago

      As an outsider- previous presidents may have had some questionable policies. Trump took the office of president and made it a laughing-stock