• @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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    14 hours ago

    paying in crypto is nice partly for this reason

    But a lot of uneducated people will spam “crypto is a scam”

    • Phoenixz
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      44 hours ago

      Crypto is not a scam, it’s just plain stupid.

      The entire idea behind it is what a third grader might come up with and think it’s a great idea. It’s not.

      It literally requires every connected wallet to process the same transactions as everyone else. Can you imagine doing billions of transactions per day this way? It is extremely inefficient and yes, this is one of the reasons why even the relatively low amount of transactions that Bitcoin processes costs more electricity than a small modern country.

      It’s in a way comparable to a cpu doing 6+7 in a single CPU cycle whilst AI needs to burn down a forest to answer the same question

      Crypto is stupid.

      I get what its trying to replace and i agree that the current system sucks as well for a long list of reasons, but crypto is NOT the solution. A fundamentally different system must be designed to be able to solve the issues that crypto is trying to solve

      • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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        Breaking news! Criminals (but not only) use crypto, and people get scammed. This happens as well with fiat, so that must surely mean fiat is a scam!

        Flawless logic, really. You people impress me with your thinking.

        • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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          67 hours ago

          if you sell something for $1 at 10am your $1 still buys $1 at 10pm.

          in crypto, it’s easily manipulated, and that’s by design. it’s a scam because the only people who have that control are the wealthy.

          If I sell 1BT worth of something at 10am, it could be worth 2BT at 10pm, but it could also be worth .1BT equally.

          the purpose of a Fiat currency is economic supremacy that is backed by the governing body and the economy that uses it.

          tell me, what governing body or economy is crypto backed by?

      • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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        18 hours ago

        If you mean through regulation, yes, partly

        If you mean they hold most of it and thus have a total decision power, then I must disagree

      • @JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
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        1112 hours ago

        I imagine the part in the article where OPP destroyed the vps and cancelled the domain because he realized he paid for the vps with his credit card?

        • @orclev@lemmy.world
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          2612 hours ago

          Crypto is not anonymous, the entire concept of how it works is to be the worlds most public and distributed transaction ledger. It is more difficult to track than credit card transactions, but that’s a very big difference from being impossible to track. There have been multiple papers published at this point on how you can de-anonymize any crypto purchase.

          People really need to get over this idea that using crypto to buy things makes you anonymous.

          • @Allero@lemmy.today
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            2711 hours ago

            Some crypto, like Monero, is anonymous. Bitcoin/Ethereum is not.

            In any case, if you use anonymous crypto, make sure to first sent it to a wallet (preferably with a subaddress in case of Monero), and then send it elsewhere.

          • FaceDeer
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            Crypto can be anonymous, if you use the right cryptocurrency and do things correctly. “Crypto” is a very broad term. Different cryptocurrencies have different functions and purposes.

          • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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            610 hours ago

            People really need to get over this idea that using crypto to buy things makes you anonymous.

            And people should also know that there are privacy coins and mixers

          • @kaidezee@lemmy.ml
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            711 hours ago

            You know, except for Monero. Really sucks that real private anonymous internet money is getting pushed out of all places possible, while crap like Bitcoin freely exists.

            • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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              210 hours ago

              This

              No worries, we can still swap conventional coins to XMR. Many smaller countries are not interested in reguling it, and we already know a few exchanges that don’t give a fuck

          • @surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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            612 hours ago

            Exactly. That’s why you had to fill out all the KYC paperwork when you create your Bitcoin wallet.

            Oh, you didn’t?

            Crypto is not hidden, but it can be anonymous. You can’t hide that you got money from X account and spent it at Y account. But there’s no name tied to the transaction.

            • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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              510 hours ago

              that’s pseudonymous, but if you remove all links with your original identity, you can even use non-privacy coins and not be known

            • @Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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              Where did the coin come from? Unless you mined it yourself, you’ve left a trail that may eventually lead to you. Even using crypto ATMs, you’re still on surveillance and hoping the tapes/drives roll over before someone comes knocking (which is a very likely bet to win), and even then, you still have a real world location to tie the wallet to because of where the transaction originated.

              Anything that interacts with the real world can anchor your identity to your wallet. Travelling out of state can help obfuscate that to an extent, but a high level adversary will be able to correlate travel with that transaction as well.

              • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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                Ever heard of BTC/any-> XMR -> BTC/any?

                If you know your thing, you can churn, buy the initial crypto with gift cards, use VPNs or Tor… yea GL for finding me

            • Mubelotix
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              211 hours ago

              You can hide it using coinjoin transactions. It’s like a mixer but native. It’s not perfect but it’s nice to have

          • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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            311 hours ago

            It’s not anonymous, it in fact exchanges everything else from real currencies’ good properties to be hard to control.

        • @glimse@lemmy.world
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          89 hours ago

          The whole point of the blockchain is it for it to be traceable, though. There’s only the illusion of anonymity with crypto

          • @ipitco@lemmy.super.ynh.fr
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            That’s complete misinformation.

            The point of blockchain is not to be traceable but not alterable or tamperable. A distributed database that can’t easily be faked.

            Some cryptocurrencies, like Monero, achieve high anonymity. While not perfect, good opsec will fix its flaws. Just like anything. That’s not the case with the majority of cryptocurrencies though, but saying anonymity is but an illusion is just false.