• @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    21 day ago

    Finally someone that acknowledge that a harmful culture is not necessarily always worth preserving.👍
    I sure hope China will become more politically democratic, but we must also acknowledge that China has made huge progress in improving conditions for their population these past 50 years. But I think the time for Communism has passed, or whatever it is they have in China.
    On the other hand I don’t see the 1 party system as that much worse than a 2 party system. To make a real difference, it needs to be a functional democracy.
    But the 1 single advantage China has over most democracies, is to NOT accept religious special pleading.

    • Ogmios
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      1 day ago

      Professing to the belief that slaughtering massive numbers of infant girls is an improvement of conditions, is a bit of a spicy take on these forums.

      You can’t do something that fucked up and just expect the entire world to pretend it never happened.

      • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        Now you are being stupid: What slaughtering is that?

        The systematic control and surveillance of Tibetan monasteries by Chinese authorities represents one of the most calculated assaults on religious freedom in the modern world.

        This is what it is about, and religious special pleading needs to fucking end. Especially when it’s harmful to children. You can abandon a religion, it’s not like for instance protection of nationality, gender or sex.

        • Ogmios
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          51 day ago

          I’m talking about the Chinese people choosing to murder their own daughters at birth because the government attempted to implement strict population controls, and everyone wanted boys so they could make more money as adults.

            • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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              223 hours ago

              If China actually cared about the people. Rather than forcing the monastery closed and them to abandon their religion/culture. They would simply offer to relocate them away from the monastery if they feared for their children.

              Without children and followers to harness. The religion would die on its own. Even as the general culture would endure. China explicitly does not want that. China specifically is trying to oppress and eradicate cultural differences.

              People are 100% Justified to call China out on this. And in doing so are not defending all of tibet’s actions. Two things can be wrong at the same time. All sides can be wrong at the same time. This is one of those cases. There is no defense of China or Tibet here. China is not doing this out of some goodness of their heart or humanitarian need. Simply their own selfish goals.

              • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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                14 hours ago

                So you are saying that instead of closing the monastery, they should relocate the towns!
                Are you aware how much people are against being relocated?
                Also that’s like punishing the victim instead of the villain.

                • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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                  16 hours ago

                  Not at all. The fact of the matter is many of the people in that region and culture View things differently than you and I do. If they gave people the option to relocate and escape the reach of this monastery. You honestly wouldn’t see many people take it. Which is more or less the point. All this may sound horrific to you and i. As does tribal body mutilation etc. But to those tribes and cultures it is part of their culture.

            • Ogmios
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              11 day ago

              Lmao. Sorry, calling it unrelated isn’t going to make the world love China.

              • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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                21 day ago

                Which I don’t give a shit about, I’m just so fucking tired of people screaming about protecting harmful religious practices.

                • Ogmios
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                  11 day ago

                  Sorry that you’re inconvenienced by people making too much noise as small impotent men deploy the powers bestowed upon them by corporate technologies to destroy their entire way of life.