It also just sounds like stupid lib shit. No one is illegal–period. Nothing more needs to be said. If the land wasn’t stolen, would it be okay to start labeling people illegal?
Which is, of course, a refutation of a ridiculous straw man, because no one is actually labeling the people themselves illegal, when referring to them having immigrated illegally. It’s a deliberate cringy misinterpretation of simple shorthand.
If you call someone a thief, are you saying that they are theft, or are you saying that they stole?
@damnedfurry@gaja calling someone an illegal immigrant is specifically meant to dehumanize them. Right wingers don’t do that with other offenses. We don’t have illegal gun owners, illegal tax payers, illegal drivers, illegal hunters, heck they don’t even call abortionists illegal doctors.
Right wing rethoric absolutely labels the persons themselves as the problem and not what they have done. Its is about “illegals” and not about “people who immigrated illegally”
That’s like saying that calling someone a “thief” is equivalent to asserting that that person is stolen. Actually pay attention to the absurd logic twisting you are employing here.
So calling people who steal “thieves” is also ‘using bad logic’, then, according to you. Because they’re “people who steal”, and using a single word as shorthand for that is actually just a sinister rhetorical tactic to dehumanize them.
It also just sounds like stupid lib shit. No one is illegal–period. Nothing more needs to be said. If the land wasn’t stolen, would it be okay to start labeling people illegal?
Which is, of course, a refutation of a ridiculous straw man, because no one is actually labeling the people themselves illegal, when referring to them having immigrated illegally. It’s a deliberate cringy misinterpretation of simple shorthand.
If you call someone a thief, are you saying that they are theft, or are you saying that they stole?
@damnedfurry @gaja calling someone an illegal immigrant is specifically meant to dehumanize them. Right wingers don’t do that with other offenses. We don’t have illegal gun owners, illegal tax payers, illegal drivers, illegal hunters, heck they don’t even call abortionists illegal doctors.
Right wing rethoric absolutely labels the persons themselves as the problem and not what they have done. Its is about “illegals” and not about “people who immigrated illegally”
???
“An illegal” is literally slang for “a person who immigrated illegally”. They are expressing the same exact thing.
Yes, the same exact thing … as the other person is saying is bad and wrong. They’re calling people illegal.
No, they aren’t, it’s just shorthand.
That’s like saying that calling someone a “thief” is equivalent to asserting that that person is stolen. Actually pay attention to the absurd logic twisting you are employing here.
Yes, conservatives DO use bad logic when they call people “illegals”, I’m glad we agree on that, even if you do not understand it.
So calling people who steal “thieves” is also ‘using bad logic’, then, according to you. Because they’re “people who steal”, and using a single word as shorthand for that is actually just a sinister rhetorical tactic to dehumanize them.
Absurd.
Your inability to grasp this is rsther hilarious.