I don’t quite get why massive Gnome changes would imply a death of Desktop Linux. There are so many great alternatives to it. It’s been many years that Gnome has been considered bad by many, and that many have used alternatives. I just think it’s positive that Gnome continue to get worse, because like that more distros may default to better alternatives to begin with.
I hated Gnome 3 when it came out, but it got better over the years. If you want to use it as a traditional KDE-style DE, you’re going to fight it and have a bad time. If you use it as intended, and that works for you, it’s good.
It was somewhat of a special situation back when Gnome 3 dropped. Ubuntu & flavours of it was still regarded as the go-to distro by many and KDE still had a somewhat damaged reputation due to KDE 3 (even though 4 was already available, however that also had some issues). Many environments we know today didn’t exist yet, so lots of people were rather distraught when Gnome broke with a lot of concepts and dropped what arguably was a horrendous DE.
Many of our current DEs are Gnome 2 or 3 forks (MATE, Cinnamon, Budgie, and back then also Unity), made exactly because of this whole debacle.
I never understood it either. I was a user of Gnome until Gnome 3 showed up and I decided to nope out of there. It was a simple process of trying few different DE’s and I have settled on KDE and Cinnamon for when I want that old timey Gnome feeling.
Yeah, really baffling direction. I ended up trying a version on gnome 3 on a Debian distro when I had a new job. It ran very slowly. Super weird. It used to be super smooth.
I can’t ever remember a Gnome 3 install that ran slow for me. But I can always feel a heaviness to Gnome3 that bothers me. It’s like an unseen presence that feels like something is wrong.
Tried KDE in the early days, it was all over the place. Switched to gnome when it was baked. I had been gnome for years. Every update broke and replaced plugins to make it work like I wanted. I’ve had Windows layout since’95, I have to go back and forth a lot, so muscle memory is key.
After fucking with gnome for the 90th time. I tried KDE again, it was just layed out like I wanted. No plugins, no fucking with it. The worst thing I have to do is set dolphin not to open on single click.
I see people here going well if you don’t take it as it comes you’re going to have a bad time. That’s pretty much the least Linux comment I’ve ever read. That’s OSX in a nutshell.
Yeah, KDE was rough in the early days thanks to QT. But things slowly worked themselves out. While I don’t change much with KDE, I do change a few minor things, mostly I make sure the capslock is off and single click to open is on and I got to have that 3D box to switch my desktops. But I do like the power of easy choice KDE offers.
Still I do get nostalgic for the old Gnome2 days. So I have Cinnamon DE installed on a low powered mini desktop. And it runs amazingly well.
I don’t quite get why massive Gnome changes would imply a death of Desktop Linux. There are so many great alternatives to it. It’s been many years that Gnome has been considered bad by many, and that many have used alternatives. I just think it’s positive that Gnome continue to get worse, because like that more distros may default to better alternatives to begin with.
Gnome is awesome
I hated Gnome 3 when it came out, but it got better over the years. If you want to use it as a traditional KDE-style DE, you’re going to fight it and have a bad time. If you use it as intended, and that works for you, it’s good.
Interesting. I think they might have been my problem, I was just trying to use it tradicionally. I wonder how it’s different nowadays.
Kde is not traditional. It looks like disgusting microshit garbage. Same as cinnamon.
I don’t know why people would want to sue desktop environments that like that like garbage product made by billy gats
It was somewhat of a special situation back when Gnome 3 dropped. Ubuntu & flavours of it was still regarded as the go-to distro by many and KDE still had a somewhat damaged reputation due to KDE 3 (even though 4 was already available, however that also had some issues). Many environments we know today didn’t exist yet, so lots of people were rather distraught when Gnome broke with a lot of concepts and dropped what arguably was a horrendous DE.
Many of our current DEs are Gnome 2 or 3 forks (MATE, Cinnamon, Budgie, and back then also Unity), made exactly because of this whole debacle.
In my experience it was KDE 3 that was praised, while 4 was shunned for being too bloated, and trying to be too much like Windows Aero
Yeah, it’s been interesting seeing all the alternatives popping up. I think I’ve met a lot of people who really liked MATE.
I’ve mostly kept using XFCE. But before I had i3 only.
I never understood it either. I was a user of Gnome until Gnome 3 showed up and I decided to nope out of there. It was a simple process of trying few different DE’s and I have settled on KDE and Cinnamon for when I want that old timey Gnome feeling.
It wasn’t hard to switch at all.
Yeah, really baffling direction. I ended up trying a version on gnome 3 on a Debian distro when I had a new job. It ran very slowly. Super weird. It used to be super smooth.
I can’t ever remember a Gnome 3 install that ran slow for me. But I can always feel a heaviness to Gnome3 that bothers me. It’s like an unseen presence that feels like something is wrong.
Tried KDE in the early days, it was all over the place. Switched to gnome when it was baked. I had been gnome for years. Every update broke and replaced plugins to make it work like I wanted. I’ve had Windows layout since’95, I have to go back and forth a lot, so muscle memory is key.
After fucking with gnome for the 90th time. I tried KDE again, it was just layed out like I wanted. No plugins, no fucking with it. The worst thing I have to do is set dolphin not to open on single click.
I see people here going well if you don’t take it as it comes you’re going to have a bad time. That’s pretty much the least Linux comment I’ve ever read. That’s OSX in a nutshell.
Yeah, KDE was rough in the early days thanks to QT. But things slowly worked themselves out. While I don’t change much with KDE, I do change a few minor things, mostly I make sure the capslock is off and single click to open is on and I got to have that 3D box to switch my desktops. But I do like the power of easy choice KDE offers.
Still I do get nostalgic for the old Gnome2 days. So I have Cinnamon DE installed on a low powered mini desktop. And it runs amazingly well.
I tried Cinnamon out in a live distro It was pretty pleasant. I find Nemo for more enjoyable than Dolphin.
Hot take: the more Gnome shoots itself in the foot, the better for Linux.
I even liked Unity (so long as the icons weren’t on the side).
I remember the reaction at the time and so many people hated it. I didn’t dislike it, I was getting a bit into it.