• @petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    53 days ago

    You have to compete with the content they produce regardless. Speaking of Brandolini’s law, it’s much, much less effort to ridicule something than it is to factually debunk it.

    Last I heard, masculinism is growing among them.

    Yeah, because… masculinism is “cool” and “anti-lame.” So it should be mocked.

    It’s really not that hard to see. When conservatives rage against “woke pussies” or whatever, they’re clearly rejecting some kind of perceived weakness. So when you mock them, and you damage their perception of strength, yeah, they flop around like fish gasping for air.

    • oce 🐆
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      13 days ago

      You have to compete with the content they produce regardless.

      No, you can educate people from the start so they are able to weed out information by themselves.
      Isn’t it what you do? You are educated so you are able to detect the far right bullshit.
      Or are you really watching a bigger amount of content that ridicule this view in order to counter its effect?

      • @petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        33 days ago

        I’m gonna be honest: you can’t. Education is dry, and dull, and boring, and exactly the kind of lame bullshit I’m talking about. Your strategy is the strategy of nerds and losers.

        It’s not that it’s not worth doing. You are correct that education was my vaccine against the far right. But no one is listening. If you’re not drumming up energy, social momentum, no one is paying attention to you. Even people who agree with you are not really getting involved.

        You need charisma. Mockery not only damages the rizz of your opponents, exposing them to be the rizzless, softboy soy-drinkers they always were, it also bolsters your own. It gets the crowd jumping and doing stadium waves and shit. I don’t know how else to say this, but people like displays of power. That is legit the only way fascists even win.

        Long term, it would be great to educate these fickle-as-the-wind dipshits as I was, but that takes time. And, they have to already like you. If they don’t like you, they just won’t listen.

        If you want to move populations, you need to wield the tools of social power. You cannot depend on the truth to do it for you.

        • oce 🐆
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          13 days ago

          Do you realize you are using similar arguments as the far right / masculinist by mentioning nerds, losers, mockery, charisma, soft boys, soy drinkers, display of power?

          I said before I’m considering those who may still listen and the next generation. I know you can’t change the current maga-like with public education.

          • @petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            121 hours ago

            Yes.

            Do you realize you are also spreading “right-wing ideas,” such as “we should not mock them, it would be very mean”? Curious. Interesting. Concerning.

            I’m considering those who may still listen and the next generation.

            That’s awesome. What is preventing you from doing this?

            Unironically, the education you give should include how stupid the nazis actually were. Anything less would be lying, honestly. Can we not have a little fun? They’re a very stupid and insecure people.

            • oce 🐆
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              110 hours ago

              Do you realize you are also spreading “right-wing ideas,” such as “we should not mock them, it would be very mean”?

              Do they? You’re the first one I read mentioning that.

              I’m worried that by using their tactics you contribute to popularizing their ways.

              • @petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                13 hours ago

                They really did not like being called weird, yeah. You should, I dunno, read the news sometime.

                Trump won. Their ways are already popular.

                I mean, if I even agreed that the righteous and just weren’t allowed to show any contempt—this is a bit like saying Maga also breathe air, choke yourself—but even if I agreed: they won. The landscape is already different.