The UK’s strategic defence review plans to normalise nuclear weapons. Don’t believe the PR hype: they are immoral, irrational and catastrophic, says Guardian foreign affairs commentator Simon Tisdall
Yes they’re civilians. Not just bankers (although I don’t think bankers deserve death just because someone on the internet doesn’t like them). There will be cleaners, bus drivers, shop workers, etc, and you want to murder them all with a nuclear bomb.
Look, it’s all love. I don’t want to murder them with my nuclear bomb that I have (my possession of which must be what’s warranting this level of concern from you) I just recognize that for our species to have a future on this planet they’re all gonna need to either be put in prison until they can be taught to value human life, or else be killed.
As for the hypothetical harm to the hypothetical civilians in the hypothetical scenario where I hypothetically have a nuclear bomb, I hope you have the same level of outrage about the real civilians in Gaza that the RAF has provided over 50% of the reconnaissance overflights for, to help Israel more efficiently massacre them using drones built with UK components.
they’re all gonna need to either be put in prison until they can be taught to value human life, or else be killed
Cleaners and bus drivers who work in the City of London? Even if you just mean bankers, are they as bad as rapists and murderers? I don’t love bankers but I don’t think that working for a bank means you need to be imprisoned or killed.
I hope you have the same level of outrage about the real civilians in Gaza that the RAF has provided over 50% of the reconnaissance overflights for
Well I think Israel should stop its bombings of Gaza. You’re changing the subject though. It’s completely possible for me to disagree with Israel’s actions in Gaza, while also disagreeing with the idea of nuking the City of London.
Unlike that person’s imaginary nukes, you are building real actual nukes and threatening civilians with them. And if they definitely weren’t threatening civilians they wouldn’t serve their purpose as a deterrent so there would be no point building them.
It would be great to live in a world without nukes. But as it stands, quite a few countries have nukes. If the UK gave up its nukes then Russia or China could come along and take over the UK. “Surrender or we’ll nuke you.”
That link isn’t working for me. But in any case I can’t really change what the UK government does. I can vote but that doesn’t really make a huge difference.
I think the UK is a democracy but it’s a bit flawed (like every democracy I guess). I often think the UK would be more democratic if we had proportional representation.
Anyway the subject is just being changed, this is a tangent. My original point was that nukes could help the UK to defend itself. Perhaps Europe as a whole can have a shared nuclear capability, starting with British/French nukes.
Yeah, you’re definitely on the moral side of the argument when you fantasise about murdering civilians with a nuclear bomb.
Also ‘civilians’ lmao the denizens of London’s financial district are among the vilest ghouls to ever walk the Earth
Yes they’re civilians. Not just bankers (although I don’t think bankers deserve death just because someone on the internet doesn’t like them). There will be cleaners, bus drivers, shop workers, etc, and you want to murder them all with a nuclear bomb.
Look, it’s all love. I don’t want to murder them with my nuclear bomb that I have (my possession of which must be what’s warranting this level of concern from you) I just recognize that for our species to have a future on this planet they’re all gonna need to either be put in prison until they can be taught to value human life, or else be killed.
As for the hypothetical harm to the hypothetical civilians in the hypothetical scenario where I hypothetically have a nuclear bomb, I hope you have the same level of outrage about the real civilians in Gaza that the RAF has provided over 50% of the reconnaissance overflights for, to help Israel more efficiently massacre them using drones built with UK components.
Cleaners and bus drivers who work in the City of London? Even if you just mean bankers, are they as bad as rapists and murderers? I don’t love bankers but I don’t think that working for a bank means you need to be imprisoned or killed.
Well I think Israel should stop its bombings of Gaza. You’re changing the subject though. It’s completely possible for me to disagree with Israel’s actions in Gaza, while also disagreeing with the idea of nuking the City of London.
Unlike that person’s imaginary nukes, you are building real actual nukes and threatening civilians with them. And if they definitely weren’t threatening civilians they wouldn’t serve their purpose as a deterrent so there would be no point building them.
It would be great to live in a world without nukes. But as it stands, quite a few countries have nukes. If the UK gave up its nukes then Russia or China could come along and take over the UK. “Surrender or we’ll nuke you.”
Whereas you ARE on the moral side of the argument because your government’s elite death squads actually do murder civilians
That link isn’t working for me. But in any case I can’t really change what the UK government does. I can vote but that doesn’t really make a huge difference.
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Why are you so upset about my posts?
At least you get that you don’t live in a democracy, just a dictatorship of capitalists with some occasional political pageantry.
I think the UK is a democracy but it’s a bit flawed (like every democracy I guess). I often think the UK would be more democratic if we had proportional representation.
Anyway the subject is just being changed, this is a tangent. My original point was that nukes could help the UK to defend itself. Perhaps Europe as a whole can have a shared nuclear capability, starting with British/French nukes.