• @BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    I didn’t mean other countries were doing things do the West, lol.

    I meant the West has constantly been doing to most of the world what westerners are no trying to describe as “war” when Russia does it. Hell, the Russian Federation isn’t doing anything to the West that the West hasn’t been doing to it since the day it was formed

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      71 day ago

      You do realise that the whole point of the United Nations is so that things like that this don’t happen anymore. Of course that presupposes everybody’s going to play nicely. Deals with Russia aren’t worth the paper written on, vis-a-vis Ukraine.

      So how can we not be at war with an entity so fundamentally untrustworthy. You are complaining that the West is at war with Russia (as if the Western democracies are a united front) but that’s because Russia is constantly breaking the rules. If they just stayed within their own borders that wouldn’t be a problem.

      Your problem is that you’ve already decided who is right and who is wrong and you’re not going to allow anything like reality to get in the way of that.

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        23 hours ago

        You do realise that the whole point of the United Nations is so that things like that this don’t happen anymore.

        No? The point of the UN is to stop actual wars, not what the UK is trying to describe as war, which are things that the west has been consistently doing for the entire lifetime of the UN.

        So how can we not be at war with an entity so fundamentally untrustworthy.

        Because a lot of countries are fundamentally untrustworthy? Including all of the ones who are signed onto the Rome Statute who are still supporting Israel. Which includes the UK. If you really want to redefine terms so that any untrustworthy country is inherently at war, then the UK is at war with the entire world.

        You are complaining that the West is at war with Russia

        No, I’m pointing out that the West isn’t at war with Russia, and it’s an Orwellian abuse of language to say they are.

        that’s because Russia is constantly breaking the rules

        There is no rule that Russia has broken that the west, especially the UK, hasn’t repeatedly and flagrantly violated both in the past and currently.

        Your problem is that you’ve already decided who is right and who is wrong and you’re not going to allow anything like reality to get in the way of that.

        Wrong. Nothing I have said implies that; I’m guessing this is a go to straw-man you go to, but it most certainly doesn’t apply to me. If anything, it sounds like you’re projecting; you’ve already decided whos wrong and that’s why you’re not actually reading or responding to what I’m saying.