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@blackn1ght@feddit.uk to United Kingdom@feddit.ukEnglish • 2 days ago

Russia is at war with Britain and US is no longer a reliable ally, UK adviser says

www.theguardian.com

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Russia is at war with Britain and US is no longer a reliable ally, UK adviser says

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@blackn1ght@feddit.uk to United Kingdom@feddit.ukEnglish • 2 days ago
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  • @Womble@lemmy.world
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    19•2 days ago

    That’s not really a fair comparison, Canada wasn’t a fully independent country in 1939, they were still a dominion of the British empire with foreign policy set from London (though otherwise self ruling).

    • Maple Engineer
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      5•2 days ago

      Then why did it take 9 days?

      • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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        Four days after the United Kingdom had declared war on 3 September 1939, Parliament was called in special session and both King and Manion stated their support for Canada following Britain, but did not declare war immediately, partly to show that Canada was joining out of her own initiative and was not obligated to go to war.

        Also from the link:

        At the outbreak of war, Canada’s commitment to the war in Europe was limited by the government to one division, and one division in reserve for home defence.

        Canada did not intend to get involved to the extent they did at the start. That changed after the Battle of Dieppe in 1942, along with other events.

        • Maple Engineer
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          10•1 day ago

          Canada entered the was 9 days after it started. The US entered the war 820 days later.

          Canada went and fought while the US sat and watched.

          • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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            Not true at all. You should maybe crack a history book.

            Post-WWI the US people wanted to be less involved in world affairs. Congress prevented the country from joining the League of Nations.

            Then when WWII broke out I’d imagine there was not a lot of stomach for it. You know, since they had just been involved in a similar war a little over 2 decades before.

            To say they did nothing shows your ignorance. Before officially entering the war, the US provided substantial aid to the Allied powers, particularly Great Britain.

            Why should the US, in 1939, have declared war?

            • Maple Engineer
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              14•1 day ago

              Canada, 9 days.

              US, 829 days.

              For those 820 days the rest of the world, including Canada, was sending its young men to fight and die for freedom.

              The US sat and watched.

              • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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                5•1 day ago

                More false information. Let’s see who entered WWII at, or after December, 1941.

                • Phillipines
                • China
                • Guatemala
                • Haiti
                • Dominican Republic
                • Honduras
                • Cuba
                • El Salvador
                • Costo Rica
                • Brazil
                • Bolivia
                • Mexico

                Sure looks like most of the western hemisphere didn’t join until after the war came to their part of the world.

                I wonder who remained neutral?

                • Turkey
                • Spain
                • Afghanistan
                • Argentina
                • Yemen
                • Saudi Arabia
                • Sweden
                • Portugal
                • Switzerlamd
                • Ireland
                • Uriguay
                • Lithuania
                • Latvia
                • Estonia
                • Bhutan
                • Iceland
                • Andorra
                • Liechtenstein
                • Monaco
                • San Marino
                • Vatican City

                Any other lies you’d like to tell?

                • @Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
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                  7•18 hours ago

                  This is a super weird deflection and it should be called out.

                  • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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                    2•14 hours ago

                    The person I responded to made a claim that everyone else in the world was fighting in WWII but not the US.

                    Thats simply not true.

                • @Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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                  5•17 hours ago

                  Your list is full of fucking holes. The Philippines was a US colony before Japan invaded, Spain was fascist and assisted the fascist, Switzerland played both sides by moving money, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were occupied by the fucking Soviets and you Americans did not say shit about it and sold them off after the war.

                  • @LilB0kChoy@midwest.social
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                    2•14 hours ago

                    The Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, jointly declared their neutrality on 18 November 1938, in Riga, at the Conference of Baltic Foreign Ministers with their respective parliaments passing neutrality laws later that year. Despite that, all of them were occupied twice by the Soviet Union and once by Nazi Germany.

                    Spain, whose civil war had just ended at the beginning of World War II, sent troops to the Russian front to help German armed forces. I don’t think they ever declared war.

                    Nazis purchased critical war material from neutral countries using Swiss francs gained in exchange for gold looted by the Nazis from occupied countries and from individual victims of concentration camps. Switzerland continued to trade until the end of the war in 1945.

                    The Phillipines was attacked 9 hours after Pearl Harbor on 12/7 and did not declare war but was drawn into it as a result of the attack. The US declared war on 12/8 and had war declared back on 12/11.

                • Maple Engineer
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                  11•1 day ago

                  829 days.

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